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US Catholics ready to follow Pope's 'marching orders' on climate change
MSN news ^ | June 18, 2015 | Suzanne Goldenberg

Posted on 06/18/2015 1:22:58 PM PDT by detective

Leaders of the Catholic Church in America took their “marching orders” from the Pope’s encyclical on Thursday, fanning out to Congress and the White House to push for action on climate change.

The high-level meetings offered a first glimpse of a vast and highly organised effort by the leadership of America’s nearly 80 million Catholics to turn the Pope’s moral call for action into reality.

“It is our marching orders for advocacy,” Joseph Kurtz, the president of the US Conference of Catholic Bishops and the Archbishop of Louisville, said. “It really brings about a new urgency for us.”

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To: daniel1212
This would seem- esp. if the doctrine of Pius X is deemed worthy of assent of mind and will -RCs are to thus follow the anti-fracking, seeming socialist, anti-capitalist, doctrinal marginalizing, evangelical-affirming non-proselytization pope, as well as all V2 teaches, or t varyijg degrees, to be of the traditionalists who dissent from so much modern teaching based upon their interpretation of historical teaching.

Your argument falls apart on this point: Pius X had a right to demand assent to what he taught, because he taught the Catholic Faith. This new encyclical teaches nothing but Bergoglio's stupid, erroneous, gaseous opinions about the Global Warming Hoax and the nostrums of the pro-abortion, genocidal, totalitarian Left. Catholics have NO obligation to pay attention to any of Bergoglio's opinions. They have nothing to do with Catholicism.

261 posted on 06/19/2015 6:25:42 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: dennisw

Bingo. And the bishops who are most involved in Open Borders are pro-abortion, like O’Malley. If you doubt me, google around for his many photos slobbering on pro-aborts, giving them Communion, etc.

The Open Borders bishops knew perfectly well that immigrants vote 70-75% pro-abortion.

BTW: I was appalled that the March for Life invited him to be homilist at the Mass at the Shrine the night before the March this year. That was an obscenity.


262 posted on 06/19/2015 6:33:48 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

New STORIES crop up. New CASES do not.


263 posted on 06/19/2015 6:35:30 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: bert

Oops. Ussher.


264 posted on 06/19/2015 6:37:34 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan

You are correct.
But I don’t recall any of the accused being found without direct guilt or knowledge of what was going on.


265 posted on 06/19/2015 6:41:50 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks ("If he were working for the other side, what would he be doing differently ?")
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

There have been some priests falsely accused.

There hasn’t been a NEW case of abuse of a minor by a priest in years. Everything has changed. PARENTS once protected priests! No more. An accusation nowadays, even a false one, is a death sentence.

About two-thirds of American bishops should have gone to prison. Of course, unlike priests, the bishops had access to a couple of billion dollars.


266 posted on 06/19/2015 7:03:58 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan
I can't believe how many posters claim to know the rules of the Church and post as so, but really don't know the rules of the church. This is after they have been explained to them over and over again. True ignorance on their part, or they only visit FR to cause controversy. It's probably the latter, and very pathetic on their part. I'm finally at the point where I can laugh at them.

What they post about Catholicism says more about their own faith than it does Catholicism.

267 posted on 06/19/2015 7:04:10 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: miss marmelstein
>>Meanwhile, most Protestants seem to believe the world is only 40,000 years old.<<

Oh really? Do you have statistical evidence of that or are you just making that up?

268 posted on 06/19/2015 7:09:40 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
>>BTW--the universe in it's current configuration is currently in its 5775th year.<<

There, fixed it for you.

269 posted on 06/19/2015 7:55:58 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear

Mea culpa. I was wrong.

According to one Gallup poll, close to half of all evangelicals believe that the world is only 6000 years old. How I goofed that up, I’ll never know.


270 posted on 06/19/2015 7:56:17 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: "I should like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: miss marmelstein

Why do you get so personally nasty so quickly?


271 posted on 06/19/2015 7:59:20 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear

Oh, that’s rich! Take a look in the frying pan and get back to me.


272 posted on 06/19/2015 8:02:13 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: "I should like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: Arthur McGowan; daniel1212

So the pope is the “vicar of Christ” except when he’s not?


273 posted on 06/19/2015 8:10:04 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: miss marmelstein

Please show where I have made it personal as opposed to countering error within a religion.


274 posted on 06/19/2015 8:17:44 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear

Where did I make it personal? I quoted a Gallup poll.


275 posted on 06/19/2015 8:20:39 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: "I should like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: Elsie

Amen.


276 posted on 06/19/2015 8:41:34 AM PDT by MamaB (Heb. 13:2)
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To: Arthur McGowan

An accused priest who would be found falsely accused ought to be page 1 news.


277 posted on 06/19/2015 8:42:11 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks ("If he were working for the other side, what would he be doing differently ?")
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To: miss marmelstein; Zionist Conspirator
>>Where did I make it personal?<<

Post 232 quote "You’re a fake Jew and people need to know it." Now you claim that was from "a Gallup poll"?

278 posted on 06/19/2015 8:45:33 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear

I have wondered that too. In fact, I think a few got up on the wrong side of the bed today. Some seem to be really grouchy.


279 posted on 06/19/2015 8:51:00 AM PDT by MamaB (Heb. 13:2)
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To: Arthur McGowan; CynicalBear
Your argument falls apart on this point: Pius X had a right to demand assent to what he taught, because he taught the Catholic Faith. This new encyclical teaches nothing but Bergoglio's stupid, erroneous, gaseous opinions about the Global Warming Hoax and the nostrums of the pro-abortion, genocidal, totalitarian Left. Catholics have NO obligation to pay attention to any of Bergoglio's opinions. They have nothing to do with Catholicism.

Actually, it is your argument falls apart on this point, and confirms mine. As in order to escape from obeying the teaching of Pius X, in which the one duty of the multitude is to allow themselves to be led, and, like a docile flock, to follow the Pastors (and then there is the additional quote(, "we do not limit the field in which he might and must exercise his authority," then you must actually do the contrary, which is that of you deciding whether what the pope said is valid teaching, based upon your judgment of what that is.

Thus as said, other RCs accuse traditionalist RCs such as dissent from part of V2 as basically being Protestant. While traditionalist RCs dissent from certain modern RC teaching based upon their judgment of what valid RC teaching is in the light of certain historical RC teaching, Prots dissent from many RC teachings based upon their judgment of what valid teaching is in the light of what Scripture teaches and warrants.

I actually concur with traditionalist RCs that certain modern teachings stand in contrast with past teaching, however, a fundamental premise of RC teaching is that Scripture, history and tradition only validly consists and means what she says, and thus V2 can define what past valid teaching really was and meant.

As Manning asserted,

It was the charge of the Reformers that the Catholic doctrines were not primitive, and their pretension was to revert to antiquity. But the appeal to antiquity is both a treason and a heresy. It is a treason because it rejects the Divine voice of the Church at this hour, and a heresy because it denies that voice to be Divine.... I may say in strict truth that the Church has no antiquity. It rests upon its own supernatural and perpetual consciousness...The only Divine evidence to us of what was primitive is the witness and voice of the Church at this hour. — Most Rev. Dr. Henry Edward Cardinal Manning, “The Temporal Mission of the Holy Ghost: Or Reason and Revelation”

And you are to follow leadership versus being like Prots in seeking to ascertain the veracity of RC teaching by examination of evidences. And at the least the flock is not to publicly dissent from even non-infallible teaching.

280 posted on 06/19/2015 9:22:02 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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