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Flickering Greatness
NY Times ^ | 6-13-15 | Maureen Dowd

Posted on 06/13/2015 12:28:01 PM PDT by Second Amendment First

ON Saturday mornings, I love to watch reruns of the TV Western “The Rifleman.” Each show is a little moral fable, with Chuck Connors’s widowed rancher and crack shot, Lucas McCain, teaching his son, Mark, about actions and consequences.

If you neglect to do this now, you will pay a penalty later. If a corner is cut here, you will regret it there.

The president might want to catch some shows, as the lame duck’s chickens come home to roost.

At this pivotal moment for his legacy at home and abroad, his future reputation is mortgaged to past neglect.

Like Prufrock, Obama must wonder if the moment of his greatness is flickering.

The president descended from the mountain for half an hour on Thursday evening, materializing at Nationals Park to schmooze with Democrats and Republicans at the annual congressional baseball game.

It was the first time he had deigned to drop by, and the murmur went up, “Jeez. Now? Really?”

Obama has always resented the idea that it mattered for him to charm and knead and whip and hug and horse-trade his way to legislative victories, to lubricate the levers of government with personal loyalty. But, once more, he learned the hard way, it matters.

His last-minute lobbying trips for his trade package to the ballpark — with a cooler of home-brewed beer from the White House — and to Capitol Hill Friday morning to lecture Democrats about values reaped a raspberry from House Democrats.

The Democrats — even most of the Congressional Black Caucus, which Obama courted agressively and which has been protective of him — showed their allegience to themselves, their principles and their labor allies, and not to their aloof president.

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To: W.

The Open Range shootout at the end of the film is the best macho laced gunfight scene ever done. It is totally inaccurate—what with 16 or 17 rounds from six-shooters. And ol Cosner seems to have no idea how to reload a single action revolver. The shotgun blast into the bad guy has an apparent muzzle energy equivalent to at least a full scale steam locomotive collision—but lots of viewing fun.

So fast forward to the last 20 minutes or so—what a hoot!


61 posted on 06/13/2015 3:17:23 PM PDT by whistleduck
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To: ansel12

Oh, wake up. John Sturges had no control over McQueen or Yul Brenner. Maybe Horst Bucholz who gives an appalling performance. (Why didn’t he control him - he’s a marvelous director!)

Please tell me where I attacked Chuck Conners? Do you think by saying that Chuck Conners is not the actor that Steve McQueen is, that I’m attacking him? If so, you’re a big pansy.

I notice you’re neglecting to inform me of your profession.


62 posted on 06/13/2015 3:18:56 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: "I should like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: miss marmelstein; Kirkwood

Notice that marmelstein doesn’t really seem to know anything about anything.

What was the novel you wrote marmelstein, what is the title?


63 posted on 06/13/2015 3:21:48 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: miss marmelstein
I always loved the Rifleman. But as I got older, did a lot of shooting with a 243, 270, 300H&H it sunk in that these rifles 'kick". Now Lucus would rapidly bend at the waist, put the butt of the rifle in the intertrigigenous area of the fold of his groin, and, if memory serves, rip off 11 or 12 rounds. It occurred to me that it would have jolted his family jewels into Micas' office in North Fork. It would have at least crushed his left nut and swollen his member in a most undesirable manner. Perhaps that is why we only see one Mark, not two. Others may have had the same concern, but there it is.

As a post script. I have heard for years that Chuck Connors, prior to the Rifleman was a pornstar. I am not trying to start vicious rumors.

64 posted on 06/13/2015 3:27:21 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: miss marmelstein
Oh, please. I have no problem with Chuck Conners but he was a professional baseball player and Steve McQueen was a B’way actor and member of the Actor’s Studio.

Read post 58.

It is interesting that you keep attacking Connors for his pre acting career just as you keep attacking me and freepers for what we do for a living when commenting on TV shows, and such.

Connors had a 59 year acting career, including 16 years of that career, before “The Rifleman” and that included movies TV, and plays that started in 1942.

McQueen didn’t start taking classes until 1952, and just as I pointed out, his 1958 TV series, while exciting, and he definitely had the “it” factor, his over reaching sometimes shows.

65 posted on 06/13/2015 3:31:35 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: Charles Martel

Thank you. 120 certified kills. However, one was with a knife and one with a pitchfork.....but we will let those slide.


66 posted on 06/13/2015 3:35:11 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: ansel12

Yes, dearheart. I know nothing about nothing. 40 years in NYC theater has taught me nothing - while you, whatever your profession or region, knows everything about the art of acting.

The one problem with popular art forms is that fools think they know something about them.


67 posted on 06/13/2015 3:42:24 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: "I should like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: A Navy Vet

I liked the spaghetti westerns with Terrance Hill and Bud Spencer. Granted, nowhere near the same league.


68 posted on 06/13/2015 3:46:28 PM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: whistleduck

The only thing accurate about the Open Range gunfight, was how many bullets to hits there were. Most cowboys couldn’t hit anything.

Love watching it though.

The OK Corral in Tombstone seems to have a similar flaw in terms of rounds fired, but after watching it a zillion times, some of the scenes are the same shot but from a different camera angle (showing same shot twice).


69 posted on 06/13/2015 3:47:18 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: miss marmelstein

Sorry dearheart, but don’t seem capable of actually defending your opinions in this discussion, that must be why you don’t even try.

Read post 65, to learn something about your glaring mistakes, and while you pretty much exist on your ego, why don’t you tell us the name of your novel?


70 posted on 06/13/2015 3:53:07 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

Why should I tell you anything? So that you can troll on Amazon? My book hasn’t been published yet - wait til November. My plays have been published but you wouldn’t like them - my actors handle props too beautifully for you.

Forget my ego. Tell me what your profession is. I long to know because I’m sure my large ego will have something important and knowledgeable to say about it.


71 posted on 06/13/2015 4:02:13 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: "I should like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: miss marmelstein

“Let’s face it: Lucas WAS A NUT!”

Other than some lapses in gun safety, Lucas was Awesome.


72 posted on 06/13/2015 4:09:06 PM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Things are only going to get worse.)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

Unfortunately, we (as always) have some folks here who think that Lucas was a real person. These are the same people who used to write letters to the car from the tv show My Mother, the Car.


73 posted on 06/13/2015 4:11:30 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: "I should like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: miss marmelstein

Wrote letters to the car? Mr. Ed I can understand, but the car? ;)


74 posted on 06/13/2015 4:12:21 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: miss marmelstein

I thought that you were a published novelist?


75 posted on 06/13/2015 4:15:50 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

What do you do for a living?


76 posted on 06/13/2015 4:17:15 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: "I should like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: A Navy Vet

“My favorite modern Westerns:
Tombstone (the most accurate according to my research of the Earp saga); Open Range (highly under-rated); The Unforgiven.”

One of my personal favorites is The Outlaw Josey Wales. That movie has everything, great characters, dialog, music.


77 posted on 06/13/2015 4:18:08 PM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Things are only going to get worse.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Yes, I’m from a family of comedy writers. Letters were sent to the car of the failed comedy series “My Mother, The Car” with Jerry Van Dyke.

Would I make this up?


78 posted on 06/13/2015 4:18:22 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: "I should like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: miss marmelstein

No, given how folks are. I’ve enjoyed many of your posts, they’re like snapshots into NYC and such.


79 posted on 06/13/2015 4:20:29 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: miss marmelstein

What any of us do, or have done, in our lives, is not relevant to opinions on reruns of two old 1950s TV westerns.

But lying is, are you now saying that you do not have a published novel?


80 posted on 06/13/2015 4:21:53 PM PDT by ansel12
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