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House Rejects Trade Bill, Rebuffing Obama’s Dramatic Appeal
New York Times ^ | June 12, 2015 | Jonathan Weissman

Posted on 06/12/2015 10:52:45 AM PDT by nwrep

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To: caww

The Dems still have the edge in the 2016 elections. Demography is destiny.


241 posted on 06/12/2015 2:51:24 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Lucky9teen

Is Mark Levin biased, too?


242 posted on 06/12/2015 2:55:05 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Will88

The Senate could pass its own version and then it would go to conference. I don’t see how the Senate can link them unless they pass a bill containing elements of all three. In any event, I suspect that a deal is being brokered so the Dems can claim to be the party of the working man and made the necessary changes so the bills can be passed. I doubt the Dems will abandon Obama. As I have said, this is all political theater.


243 posted on 06/12/2015 2:55:10 PM PDT by kabar
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To: nwrep

Guess I won’t have to “read it to find out what’s in it” after all!


244 posted on 06/12/2015 3:01:18 PM PDT by CharleysPride (non chiedere cio che non si puo prendere -- Charlie Daniels)
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To: Marcella

“Cruz has explained his positions in all important areas including, in detail, the TPA trade bill and the secret TPP bill.”

*****

His explanation was brought to you by Goldman Sachs, his wife’s employer and source of millions in campaign donations. The same as his stance on H-1B visas. Won’t be fooled again.


245 posted on 06/12/2015 3:02:26 PM PDT by peyton randolph (Hillary Kardashian Clinton - famous for being infamous)
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To: Pearls Before Swine; All; Georgia Girl 2; xzins; Cringing Negativism Network; tanknetter; ...
"and, in fact, any debate is controlled."

DOES NOT MATTER!

Democrats in a LANDSLIDE in 2016, taking both houses and POTUS>The stupid GOP bastard were determined to cede the Republic and that's what they did when they took this foolish gambit.

It was always "World Governance" or Democrats running the USA.

What was SOOOO valuable to these Republicans that they would cede the nation to chaos and rape?

246 posted on 06/12/2015 3:02:49 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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To: Lucky9teen
I think free trade benefits America, it creates jobs, opening markets to our farmers, to our ranchers, to our manufacturers, improves economic growth. In Texas alone, roughly three million jobs depend upon international trade. And if you support free trade, the only way history has shown free trade agreements get negotiated is with fast track. Now there is a second issue that’s caused a great deal of confusion, and that is TPP.

Yeah, like NAFTA. So where has free trade gotten us in terms of the American worker? Depressed wages and the lowest labor participation rates in 38 years. And of course, free trade means the other countries can violate the agreement with impunity and the US does nothing except run bigger and bigger trade deficits.

This bill is all about payback to the corporate paymasters who fund the politicians who do their bidding. The corporations owe no allegiance to the US. They can locate anywhere.

247 posted on 06/12/2015 3:06:18 PM PDT by kabar
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To: peyton randolph

Yes. And his “explanation” was more lies and subterfuge.

He never really answered any of the questions and just kept talking in circles to avoid give a real and straight answer.

If the answer is long and it goes in circles it is probably untrue.

If a politician hides an agreement from you they are probably doing it because they know you will hate what is in it. So you should not do anything to help them with what they are hiding from you.

Ted Cruz loses on both points and now I don’t believe a word he says. He is gone to me forever for his betrayal.


248 posted on 06/12/2015 3:07:39 PM PDT by CCGuy (USAF (Ret.))
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To: Lucky9teen

Free Trade and off shoring are disasters


249 posted on 06/12/2015 3:13:11 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Publius

I wish I was as confident of that happening as you are.


250 posted on 06/12/2015 3:24:18 PM PDT by Din Maker (2016 Campaign Slogan: "If you like Obama, you'll love Hillary.")
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To: Marcella

You’re insulting me now? Way to get me to listen to you.


251 posted on 06/12/2015 3:38:03 PM PDT by Old Sarge (Its the Sixties all over again, but with crappy music...)
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To: P-Marlowe

Indeed! It doesn’t take a lot of practice to spot one.

However, it’s sometimes difficult to identify the motive.


252 posted on 06/12/2015 3:42:44 PM PDT by Aleya2Fairlie
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To: Old Sarge

Would never insult you, never.


253 posted on 06/12/2015 3:44:26 PM PDT by Marcella (TED CRUZ Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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Smells like a scheme to unify unionites against Walker in 2016.


254 posted on 06/12/2015 3:47:38 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: kabar

The Stupid Party? It’s Americans who are stupid for allowing this nation’s governing body to be insulting our values and freedoms for this long. We will, most likely, never recover.


255 posted on 06/12/2015 3:55:34 PM PDT by Aleya2Fairlie
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To: Marcella

Thank you for posting this.

And for providing Cruz for us in the Senate.


256 posted on 06/12/2015 3:58:01 PM PDT by Hardens Hollow (Couldn't find Galt's Gulch, so created our own Harden's Hollow to quit paying the fascist beast.)
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To: TNMOUTH

Because anybody that disagrees with you is a troll. So says the troll I guess.

The majority has spoken and we don’t trust Ted Cruz and feel betrayed by him. And now the TPA failed so Cruz alienated all of us for no reason.

What a brilliant move.


257 posted on 06/12/2015 4:08:23 PM PDT by CCGuy (USAF (Ret.))
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To: oh8eleven

Not really. Anybody voting for a bill kept secret from the public is anti freedom. That does not mean that those who opposed are pro freedom though.


258 posted on 06/12/2015 4:10:38 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Marcella

“Up or down vote” means the Senate has surrendered their 60-vote cloture right and surrendered the right of ANY member of either part of Congress to offer amendments. It has also taken away the right of filibuster.

Don’t treat us like ignorant fools. If TPP was so great they would not be refusing to let us see this mess until after the law was changed via TPA to make it easier to force it down our throats.

Giving those powers away DOES surrender power to the President. It is absolutely insulting for Cruz to do something and then think we are so stupid that he can convince us he didn’t do something that he just did!!!

I feel so betrayed by Ted Cruz and I was a fool that donated to his campaign and talked to numerous people about him.

Now I am spending far more time telling folks I was wrong and that he is a fraud. Thank God we have so many folks to choose from and the election is 17 months away so we can move on and find someone we can trust.

Cruz and Sessions are saying completely different things about the same thing they have read. One of them is lying and I am pretty darn sure it is Ted Cruz.

And to top it all off he has now alienated and infuriated millions of Republican voters for no benefit or reason because the bills have died. Brilliant move.


259 posted on 06/12/2015 4:21:35 PM PDT by CCGuy (USAF (Ret.))
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To: TNMOUTH
HEY, TNMOUTH!

* wink *

260 posted on 06/12/2015 4:29:30 PM PDT by WIBamian (I will not be abused by liars.)
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