Posted on 06/12/2015 1:22:03 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
I posted yesterday how "The Five" panelists and its revolving sit-ins are suddenly, with some exceptions, subtly swinging to progressive viewpoints and/or the squishy-middle in their blatherings.
The unfunny Gutfeld is a social liberal, Boling (no Rhodes scholar he) is flipping on something every day....and even a once-firebrand Kimberley is largely phoning it in lately...like she's bored with the whole set-up. Tarantino remains firm. I mentally shut out the squeaking Perino...she squeaks on and on and on with little content of any importance in her comments.
I think the incoming Murdoch juniors are as liberal and socialist as they come....and many of the Foxies such as the has-been Napolitano actually smell the handwriting on the wall and are nervously pre-adjusting accordingly.
Leni
The only two folks I really like right now, is Megan Kelly and Sean Hannity. They have been regular on their positons, but we will have to see.
Leni
No surprise at the article source. Thanks 2ndDivisionVet. Related:
Judge Andrew Napolitano: Another 9/11 Truther on Fox’s Staff?
By Lachlan Markay
November 30, 2010
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/lachlan-markay/2010/11/30/judge-andrew-napolitano-another-911-truther-foxs-staff
A cop will protect this little old lady, none of the cop haters will.
That’s your big gotcha?
The guy wasn’t behind the cop, he was on the cop’s gun side moving in fast?
That makes a big difference, not.
Then you and Hannty can quit saying he was behind the cop.
If it matters not, why lie?
The first time I saw the video I thought the guy was behind the cop, next time I watched I realized the guy slipped on the grass, then I saw that the cop almost ran into a tree, then I realized the guy was on the gun side...
That's the way people are. If you would just calmly tell people what you know that they don't instead of accusing people of lying it would be productive.
Now, your side needs to accept that human beings (especially cops who have an ISIS treat of beheading hanging over them) would logically pull a gun in this situation.
I would never ask cops to not protect themselves or let citizens control the situation. That's why we have cops, to come and take charge - as citizens it is our duty to obey their requests because that's why we pay them to risk their lives.
That cute little bikini girl could easily have a razor blade on her and the guy could have been her ISIS buddy.
You are a documented liar. This isn’t the first time.
Yes, that’s another thing. He never actually pointed it at anyone, though that won’t stop the obnoxious repetition I hear on fox and on my radio: “the cop who took his gun and waved it at teens...”
Okay, two men aggressively approached while shouting the SIDE of the cop. Hows that help you?
Hannity annoys me because he repeats the same dang point over and over again. He is not a good debater even though that seems to be what he likes to do the most.
The truth is always a good start.
So now that you’ve heard it and probably seen it, you going to echo the parrots who say he shouldn’t have pulled his gun?
I saw and heard it days ago.
Are you going to defend a guy who apologized and quit over the incident?
Sure will! Because that's the all important truth. You didn't answer my question by the way.
…you going to echo the parrots who say he shouldn’t have pulled his gun?I might be able to understand why he pulled the gun. What I do know is that he shouldn’t have been in that situation in the first place. If he had put some energy into de-escalating the situation, things would have been much smoother.
The girl never would have been arrested, if she behaved differently.
The cop never would have “had” to pull his gun, if he had behaved differently.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5f9_1433649879
See his approach at :09
He falls, rolls, loses his gear and keeps running like a mad man.
Also see :37-:57
Calm cop has his situation under control and Casebolt reignites.
Let's think about this for a moment: You're looking at a 7 minute video of a 30 minute event. Other videos of the same event show these "children" attacking other people. Witnesses say that these "children" were playing obscene rap music, screaming, jumping fences, being aggressive, attacking security guards other people and themselves, and drinking and smoking pot.
The cops arrive; they give commands to disperse the area. Instead, these "children" refuse, choosing instead to verbally and physically intimidate the officers.
Questions:
1) Is it actually possible to deescalate a situation any differently than how it was handled? These "youth" are taught by their parents, or at least each other, to resist authority. These same students in their schools are punching teachers. I even heard of a recent story, maybe two of them, about "youths" like the ones we've seen mobbing an old white man who "provoked" them by telling them to stop fighting on his pickup truck and get off his property, mobbed him and beat him nearly to death and filmed it on Youtube.
2) If the cop could have deescalated, why is he the only one being blamed, and not the "children" or their parents who were clearly not present?
3) What does the cop's attitude have to do with disobeying lawful orders and being verbally and physically aggressive? Because even if you claim that the cop provoked the "children" to break the law, rather than they already being law breakers, it doesn't change the fact that they disobeyed lawful orders and chose to behave the way they do. There is no law against a cop using stern language or even shouting.
He falls, rolls, loses his gear and keeps running like a mad man.
They were in pursuit. He did what any cop in good shape would do following his training. It's weird to describe it as being a "mad man." Is any cop running after a perp being a "mad man"?
Calm cop has his situation under control and Casebolt reignites.
That's your interpretation. All those "children" there had already been ordered to disperse. There are other videos from their angle where you get to hear these obnoxious twerps continuing to escalate and verbally resist lawful orders. The girl who got pulled down had been ordered to sit. Why was the cop ordering them to sit? Because he needed time to sort out who the perps were in the assaults and other behavior going on.
You’be got problems with “children” and “youths” that need to be worked out before you can evaluate this objectively.
When you stop looking through a sheet, get back to me.
Took me a second, but did you just accuse me of being racist with that "sheet" comment? I'm not even white dummy. I'm Mexican. I'm even Godfather to an adorable little black girl. Maybe you ought to stop looking at gangs of feral youth in terms of color and sensitivity and start looking at them in terms of character, facts and behavior. There were white feral children there too, even one teamed up with the ring leader who was using the "pool party" to promote a business that includes the use of 14 year old "models".
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