Posted on 06/10/2015 12:41:49 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
The claim is silly anyhow, that God being righteous could not permit a large amount of evildoing in the world with God’s full knowledge.
Given that Deal A for the world has been blown and it would have gone to hell if there was nothing else, anything better than that is... better.
“For that life to be terminated as a baby, he’s going to be with God forever in heaven. So, that isn’t a bad thing.”
I’ve heard pro-choice fanatics argue the same thing. Too bad Pat can’t see ahead and realize the logical contradictions of his words.
Hitler would have been just an underemployed loser were it not for those gigantic forces in the world which caused the horror of the 1914-1918 Great War. In its aftermath, to use the phrase, power was lying about in the streets to be picked up by those ready to exploit it.
That was Russia in 1917 & Germany in 1932. Hitler saw his chance and he took it.
Anyway, it was horribly insensitive for Robertson to tell a grieving mother that her departed child might have been a force for evil. Disgusting, in fact.
No contradiction - all Christians think the same about death. The mother didn’t abort her baby.
He is pretty stupid.
No-—the decline of Christianity in America began with psychological mass marketing of ideas before WWI. Germany/Europe’s collapse came in the early 1800s with the Postmodernists and moral relativists who hated Christianity (they were all sexual perverts and wanted to use people for their own selfish (nonChristian) desires and profits).
Christian morals had to go for their sexual liberation—esp. of the children like in the Ancient days of Rome and like in muslim cultures with boy harems. Christianity is incompatible with slavery and sexual immorality-—since it is the only Rational religion which removed pederasty and homosexuality and slavery and polygamy as a good to make it “sin” and evil. The Leftists are trying to normalize evil in our children and erase all the ideas of our Founding Fathers-—to recreate the paganism and Lucifereanism of anti-Christian cultures.
All “media” is controlled by the Marxists——they put out the proper perceptions for the masses and Pat is falling into their clutches-—like most useful idiots. The Left can make anyone look stupid and evil——and their mantra for 100 years (and in the indoctrination centers Public Schools_ is: Christianity is evil and bigoted and has to go.......
when it is the only religion which condemned and fought Slavery, Pederasty and homosexuality and polygamy-—still rampant in non-Christian “cultures..
The Leftists need to promote Vice and destroy Virtue in our children-—to create happy slaves who are so irrational (emotions control everything—no ability to use Reason).......because it is all Lies and Misinforamtion in the “news” 24/7.
I turn off all their disinformation sites-—which includes Fox News and all MSM newspapers and magazine. I decide what gets put into my brain and few people are true authorities on anything.
Most are dog and pony shows to waste time and create artificial emotions (anger and hate-—to divide is to conquer— pure Marxism). The push for homosexual “marriage”is to destroy all biological connections in children-—to make artificial “homes” good-—deprived of their biological parent which reduces babies to an object to be bought and sold and women into breeding factories (dehumanizing Marxism).
Only Christianity condemns using people as a Means to an End-—all people—even the unborn or the sick and old or Lepers. The Leftists want to be able to kill off the useless eaters and use people as objects for lust and profit-—even children. That is why only Christianity is targeted——or perverted so you have homosexual clergy-—ha ha....pseudo-Christianity-—which is what Pastor Bonhoeffer called most of the “Christian” churches in Germany and in USA during 1930s. They are al LOT worse now-—with women clergy (pure Marxism) and with homosexual clergy-—which makes sexual morality non-existent in Christian Religion....irrationality has NEVER been a part of Christianity-—Reason and Faith-—incoherent, irrational, contradictions are supposed to be tossed in Christian Theology unlike Eastern religions.
Be sure brain is running before throwing mouth into gear.
The obvious answer is that this woman’s baby was going to be much WORSE than Hitler.
For the same reason that someone who is in a plane crash survives when hundreds of others perish or that someone who hits their head with a kitchen cabinet door drops dead from brain trauma. Was the person who survived more holy than those that perished? Was the person who died from hitting their head more evil?
Jesus answers that by saying, no. That is the nature of the world. Ecclesiastes expounds on that by saying that time and chance happen to all men and we do not know the time of our deaths.
I personally believe that Sodom and Gomorrah and the other five cities on the plains were destroyed because they posed a threat to Abraham and his decedents. Just as the people of Israel were led out of Egyptian bondage and given the land that Abraham, Isaac, and Israel claimed before their move to Egypt.
God worked to establish his people in the land he wanted them to have.
And remember that Joseph, Mary and Jesus were living in Nazareth when the men from the east came. Herod had children in Bethlehem slaughtered, but Jesus wasn’t even there at the time. Herod was just an evil man.
First he says that in the Old Testament, God controlled all such things; who lived and died but in the New Testament, he says we’ve come to realize that people die not because God has any real say in the matter at all anymore but because it’s our own fault and because of our own responsibility. Medical malpractice? So it was the doctors’ and nurses’ fault that her child died?
But on the on the other, other hand, Pat also says God saw this poor suffering 3 year old child and says God saw this child and saw that he might have grown up to be the next Adolf Hitler or Joseph Stalin or Jeffrey Dahmer so He let him die, or perhaps He even caused him to die. One might guess that God was asleep at the wheel when the actual Hitler, Stalin and numerous other tyrants and serial killers were spared being killed at 3 years old. No, it was this child God decided needed some killin.
Dear grieving mom:
God let your child die because he was probably going to turn out to be one evil SOB, worse than even Hitler. On the other hand, you should really look into suing his doctor. Then again, it might have been all your fault because you dress immodestly and didn’t give your husband enough sex.
Feel better now?
Love,
Pat
PS
If you do sue his doctors and nurses and win a crap load of money, send some my way, will ya?
WELL said ... and good for you guys. Would have done the SAME thing. It was obvious he was a charleton from the get go.
I wasn’t offended by what he said. I believe in free speech. Even Pat Robertson has a right to his own culture.
Suggest you read up on Calvinism from an actual Calvinist source instead of where-ever you are getting your false information.
wow. Has he always been this stupid? I know it was revealing when he had God ‘steer’ that hurricane away from his campus. How selfish can you get? “Hey God- don’t hammer me with that monster storm. Nail that guy over there instead!” Doesn’t seem like a very Christian thing to do.
There is no evidence that they posed a threat to Abraham and his descendants, because the scriptures say that God had told Abraham that his descendants would go down to Egypt and spend 400 years there in bondage and afterwards be liberated (Genesis 15:13). This was before the angels went to pay Sodom a visit in Genesis chapter 19.
God altered history for Hezekiah because in the scriptures Isaiah went and prophesied to Hezekiah to get his house in order because he was about to die. Isaiah had no sooner left that Hezekiah prayed and God told Isaiah (before he had even left the courtyard) to go back and tell Hezekiah that he would live. God altered history at that point.
Lastly, Jesus was born in Bethlehem and the wise men came to ask where the child would be born who would rule over his people Israel. They were told that this child would be born in Bethlehem according to the scriptures. Herod then ordered all male boys 2 years and under in Bethlehem to be killed. Joseph was warned in a dream to flee to Egypt and he did with Mary and Jesus.
It doesn’t matter where they lived. God had warned Joseph in a dream to flee and he could have told all of those parents in Bethlehem in a dream, too, to flee to somewhere else but He didn’t.
Why alter history for King Hezekiah but not these parents and children living in Bethlehem?
I guess it is good to be king (in this case Hezekiah) as some have often said. I.E.: “It’s good to be King.”
Not so good to not be king (in this case Hezekiah) I guess...
Why do you keep asking the question when you know the answer that another mortal can give you? I don’t know why God decides to do certain things. This is the answer that has been given to you not only on this thread, but in scripture as well.
But why do try to understand God when you don’t even understand the words of men?
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