Posted on 06/08/2015 5:18:02 AM PDT by huldah1776
JERUSALEM, Israel -- Against the backdrop of a pending deal over Iran's nuclear program, an unprecedented meeting took place in Washington, D.C., last week.
The meeting between Israel and Saudi Arabia sent one more signal of an historic geopolitical change taking place in the Middle East.
At the Council on Foreign Relations, Israel's incoming director general of the Foreign Ministry, Dore Gold, met with Anwar Majed Eshki, his Saudi counterpart. These historic enemies shared an identical message: Iran is trying to take over the Middle East and it must be stopped.
The meeting took place in public, but Israel and Saudi Arabia revealed they have met five other times behind closed doors. That revelation and the rare public meeting seemed designed to send a clear signal to President Barack Obama's White House.
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At the Council on Foreign Relations, Israel's incoming director general of the Foreign Ministry, Dore Gold, met with Anwar Majed Eshki, his Saudi counterpart. These historic enemies shared an identical message: Iran is trying to take over the Middle East and it must be stopped. The meeting took place in public, but Israel and Saudi Arabia revealed they have met five other times behind closed doors. That revelation and the rare public meeting seemed designed to send a clear signal to President Barack Obama's White House.See? Obama did deserve the Peace Prize. /s
Saudi Arabia and the U.S. have created ISIS, albeit the U.S. has done so by default.
We have always tried to contain Iran for fear that they would institute something that looked like ISIS.
We are now in the Bazaar situation of needing to back Assad, as the most sane and least murderous winner.
If it weren’t for the plight of the Christians, I’d be happy to see them eat each other over the next 20 years feeding Assad just enough support to keep ISIS from winning.
Worst, or perhaps most telling of all, is that Iran's "leadership" has called for wiping Israel off the map. Iran is pursuing WMD. Saudi isn't stupid. They know Iran's "leadership" just might be crazy enough to try. Saudi also knows that if a WMD goes off anywhere in Israel, Israel *will* retaliate in a big way - most likely by turning Mecca and Medina into glass-topped self-lighting parking lots. Mecca and Medina are in Saudi, and they know they could not stop the Israeli Air Force from carrying out such a retaliation. I believe Saudi sees their duty to Islam as far more important than petty contemporary politics. So in practical terms, they are more than willing to work with Israel if need be in order to protect their interests from the indirect threat posed by Iran.
I predict that if it really comes down to it... We will see Israel carry out a strike against Iranian nuclear facilities. That strike will not only use Saudi airspace, but air bases as refueling stops, and may even include the Saudi Air Force flying support missions - SEAD and other supporting strikes on Iranian airbases. The message will be loud and clear - no threat to Mecca and Media will be tolerated.
LOL should we start a petition to have it taken back?
Not odd at all. Both are hated and threatened by Shi’ite Iran.
This just in: Israelis, Saudis both oppose being flash-fried by Iranian nukes. 0bama administration “puzzled.”
The uniting of Israel and Saudi Arabia against the threat of Iran is an unintended result of the nuke cave-in to Iran by Obama.
In attempting to isolate Israel, Obama has succeeded in isolating Iran. And it’s not just the Saudis. Egypt, UAE, Jordan and others have stepped up to oppose Iran in Yemen.It’s not just talk.
Typical of lefty thinking, or lack thereof. They never think about down-road consequences. The ones they attempt to “help” in the end lose out, and this time it may be a good development.
Notice how the Palestinian problem has suddenly moved to the back of the bus?
“Not odd at all. Both are hated and threatened by Shi’ite Iran.”
As well as by radical Baathists in Iraq.
All the same, it looks to me like the most common radical and largely most deadly variety of Islam as displayed by people like Boko Haram, ISIS, El Shabaab are funded by the Gulf (largely Sunni) nations like Saudi Arabia, even if somehow it is funneled per private citizens or Mosques. Of course, ISIS does make a lot of the funds they have, taking over Mosul provided a lot of revenue.
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“We are now in the bazaar....”
Friend, you might want to check your spelling. A bazaar is a type of open air market where one goes to buy goat eyeball pudding.
A bizzare place is something on the order of what Lewis Carroll wrote about in “Through the Looking Glass”.
Only passing this along for the good of the outfit, so to speak.
“Saudi Arabia and the U.S. have created ISIS, albeit the U.S. has done so by default.”
No, US has not created ISIS/Daesh. This youtube video is worth the time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MbRvqr34UM
I love the FR Grammar and Spelling patrol. It frees me from having to proof my work. Especially now that my smart phone auto-corrects to best-guess spelling, when I select “send”.
I’ll give myself five demerits and redouble my efforts to craft meaningful commentaries free of grammatical imperfections.
What has allowed ISIS to form and to flourish?
1. Encouraging and arming Syrian rebels with no direct control.
2. A power vacuum in Northern Iraq.
Who was primarily responsible for #1 and #2?
That’s going to drive Daesh crazy.
Assad was already backed into a corner. He was going to deal. If we’d just left Qadaffy and Assad on the trajectory they were on and had the Obama/Clinton Administration simply signed the SFA that had already been negotiated (we held every military and air base in Iraq) there’d be none of this mess.
The guy who did that would have earned the Noble Peace Prize. Note bene: earned.
We have been the "world's policemen" for decades since WWII, in part because of our newly-found position as the global super-rich society (comparatively-speaking). It has been in our best interest to make sure that regional changes are slow, measured, and as small-scale as possible. The slower things change, the longer we stay at the top.
The Saudi ruling family is enjoying the fruits of stealing the assets and equipment of American and British oil companies several decades ago, and have been living lives of startling wealth and power ever since. They don't want that to change, and so they will do whatever it takes to try to ensure that no group or nation in their region goes about making big and fast changes... changes which could mean their ouster from their amazingly easy and fabulous lifestyles. Right now, given the previous few years with Obama enabling the worst Islamic elements, their job is getting more and more difficult. Siding with the Israelis is their best bet to ensure that big changes don't happen too quickly.
I think whoever builds something has the right to blow it up when it is stolen be it oil rigs, MRAPS, or rifles.
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