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BBC brands Churchill 'an enemy of the people' ... a deeply hated drunk [leftist lies]
Daily Mail ^ | 5/31/15 | Hastings

Posted on 05/31/2015 8:31:27 AM PDT by pabianice

A BBC documentary depicting Winston Churchill as a drunken enemy of the working class has been branded as ‘graceless’ and ‘ill-informed’ by his grandson.

Churchill: When Britain Said No, broadcast on BBC2 last week, was an account of how the wartime leader lost the 1945 General Election.

It showed him as a deeply hated figure among the working class, in part because of the harsh economic policies he pursued as Chancellor in the 1920s.

The most vocal critic of Churchill in the programme was a man presented as ‘activist and writer’, Dave Douglass. He said of Churchill: ‘His role during the rise of fascism across Europe, in Spain and in Italy and in Germany was a loathsome one.

‘It was one of supporting the rise of fascist tyrannies because he had seen socialism and communism as the enemy of his class and he had seen fascism as its ally.’

Douglass also made reference to Churchill’s fondness for drink and questioned his skills as an orator. He said: ‘I think most people see him as a Boris Johnson kind of a character, a buffoon... He is obviously p***ed out of his head and everybody listening to the radio knew he was p***ed up.’

What viewers were not told was that Douglass is a self-confessed ‘revolutionary Marxist and anarchist’ who is also known as ‘Danny the red’.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Germany; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom
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1 posted on 05/31/2015 8:31:27 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice

The BBC banned him before WWII for speaking badly of Hitler and NAZIsm.


2 posted on 05/31/2015 8:32:10 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Funny how Hollywood's 'No Nukes' crowd has been silent during Obama's Iranian nuclear negotiations.)
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To: pabianice

The Communists still hate Churchill to this day.

Churchill was a staunch opponent of Nazism and Communism.

He knew that they are just two sides of the same evil coin.


3 posted on 05/31/2015 8:33:50 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: pabianice

Dave Douglass, emphasis on the ass.


4 posted on 05/31/2015 8:33:57 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Funny how Hollywood's 'No Nukes' crowd has been silent during Obama's Iranian nuclear negotiations.)
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To: pabianice

If not for Churchill, the Beeb might be broadcasting in German.


5 posted on 05/31/2015 8:34:58 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: pabianice

Are they still consider Churchill not good enough he was half American probably so

It one of class thing


6 posted on 05/31/2015 8:35:51 AM PDT by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: a fool in paradise

Be honest one of Cable channel Smitheron Channel had thing on American princess they have profile on his Mom Jennie Churchill story is that Winston got a lot of his drive from his mother and his grandfather who was Brooklyn NY banker

No wonder why Churchill had attitude LOL!


7 posted on 05/31/2015 8:37:10 AM PDT by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: pabianice

It appears to me that what got Churchill in trouble was in sending food and money to Germany after the war while Brits were still living with rationing at home.

He wasn’t willing to repeat the mistakes of WW1. He wasn’t wrong but it was very unpopular at home.


8 posted on 05/31/2015 8:39:29 AM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: pabianice
an account of how the wartime leader lost the 1945 General Election.

...and did it mention that the Labor party leader Attlee promised the returning soldiers and their families free health care...

The new Labor government implemented the NHS and the rest is history...

and like good communists all they promptly nationalized all major industries in UK, railways, electricity, coal, steel

rationing lasted till the mid 50's

9 posted on 05/31/2015 8:44:43 AM PDT by spokeshave
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To: BenLurkin

They especially hated him for trying to save Ireland from communism.


10 posted on 05/31/2015 8:48:24 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Heh, Slim... That’s what I was gonna type.

G(NM)MTA


11 posted on 05/31/2015 8:48:40 AM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Just wow.

12 posted on 05/31/2015 8:50:44 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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To: pabianice

If Churchill was such a “drunk,” he wouldn’t have lived to be 90.


13 posted on 05/31/2015 8:55:58 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: pabianice

Leftists have to rewrite history because they were stupid back then too


14 posted on 05/31/2015 8:58:26 AM PDT by GeronL (free short story: http://flscifi.blogspot.com/2015/05/free-short-story-proper-care-feeding-of.html)
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To: pabianice

Be resolute for wicked men are tireless.


15 posted on 05/31/2015 9:00:33 AM PDT by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: GeronL

Haha! I’ll have to crib that. Short and to the point.


16 posted on 05/31/2015 9:11:14 AM PDT by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: pabianice

Why are they picking on Churchill all of a sudden? It was only about a month ago one of the “re-writers” put out an article about how Churchill was pro islam, which he certainly was not.


17 posted on 05/31/2015 9:11:49 AM PDT by Dartman (Canadian, eh. And proud of it.)
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To: Bogey78O

Calling him a Drunk???

Remember the old joke; Woman says “Mr Chruchill, you’re a Drunk.” To which he replys: “Yes and in the morning I shall be SOBER buy you will still be UGLY.”


18 posted on 05/31/2015 9:19:40 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Dartman

It helps, when you are trying to destroy a country, to turn the country’s youth against their own heritage, to smear it, to make it unworthy, and especially, racist. As George W Bush said, racism is the worse possible thing, much worse than the 100 million people slaughtered by communists last century. And who wants to be guilty of doing the worse possible thing?


19 posted on 05/31/2015 9:24:08 AM PDT by odawg
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To: pabianice
Perhaps it is the ideas of Churchill which are to be "hated" by the political elite who call themselves "progressive"--wherever they are on the globe.

For too long in America, we have called Democrats "liberals," when, in fact, they are and have stood for ideas which are the antithesis of "classical liberalism."

Now, and for the past several decades they have morphed into and now identify themselves as "progressives," a term which, in itself is misleading. The so-called "progressive" philosophy is, in fact, most regressive, for it advocates failed ideas which lead to tyranny and oppression, not to freedom, opportunity, productivity, and plenty. "Progressive" ideas are more aptly described by the word "socialist."

In the following quotations from Churchill, we can see thoughts of his on the subject dating from 1908 to the 1950's. Much of what is happening in America today is described within these words:

"When I see the present Socialist Government denouncing capitalism in all its forms, mocking with derision and contempt the tremendous free enterprise capitalist system on which the mighty production of the United States is founded, I cannot help feeling that as a nation we are not acting honorably or even honestly." - Winston Churchill, Woodford Green, July 10, 1948.

"We shall not allow the advance of society and economic well-being of the nation to be regulated and curtailed by the pace of the weakest bretheren among us. Proper incentives must be offered and full freedom given to the strong to use their strength in the commonweal. Initiative, enterprise, thrift, domestic foresight, contrivance, good housekeeping and natural ability must reap their just reward. On any other plan the population of this island will sink by disastrous and agonizing stages to a far lower standard of life and two-thirds of its present numbers." - Winston Churchill, speech, Blenheim Palace, August 4, 1947.

"The difference between what is seen and what is not seen was often noticed by the old economists. What is not seen is the infinite variety of individual transactions and decisions which, in a civilized society, within the framework of just and well-known laws, insure the advantage not only of the individual concerned, but of the community, and provide that general body of well-being constituting the wealth of nations. All this is blotted out by an over-riding State control, however imposing some of its manifestations may be. It is the vital creative impulse that that I deeply fear the doctrines and policy of the socialist Government have destroyed, or are rapidly destroying, in our national life. Nothing that they can plan and order and rush around enforcing will take its place. They have broken the mainspring, and until we get a new one the watch will not go." - Winston Churchill, speech, House of Commons, October 28, 1947.

"It is in the interest of the wage-earner to have many other alternatives open to him than service under one all-powerful employer called the State. He will be in a better position to bargain collectively and production will be more abundant; there will be more for all and more freedom for all when the wage earner is able, in the large majority of cases, to choose and change his work, and deal with a private employer who, like himself, is subject to the ordinary pressures of life and, like himself, is dependent upon his personal thrift, ingenuity and good-housekeeping." - Winston Churchill, speech, Blackpool, October 5, 1946

"Liberalism (classical liberalism) has its own history and its own tradition. Socialism has its own formulas and aims. Socialism seeks to pull down wealth; Liberalism seeks to raise up poverty. Socialism would destroy private interests; Liberalism would preserve private interests in the only way in which they can be safely and justly preserved, namely, by reconciling them with public right. Socialism would kill enterprise; Liberalism would rescue enterprise from the trammels of privilege and preference. Socialism assails the pre-eminence of the individual; Liberalism seeks, and shall seek more in the future, to build up a minimum standard for the mass. Socialism exalts the rule; Liberalism exalts the man. Socialism attacks capital; Liberalism attacks monopoly." - Winston Churchill, Kinnaird Hall, Dundee, May 14, 1908.

"The British nation now has to make one of the most momentous choices in its history. That choice is between two ways of life: between individual liberty and State domination: between concentration of ownership in the hands of the State and the extension of a property-owning democracy; between a policy of increasing restraint and a policy of liberating energy and ingenuity: between a policy of levelling down and a policy of finding opportunities for all to rise upwards from a basic standard." - Winston Churchill, speech in Woodford, England, January 28, 1950.

"It is curious that, while in the days of my youth I was much reproached with inconsistency and being changeable, I am now scolded for adhering to the same views I had early in life and even of repeating passages from speeches which I made long before most of you were born. Of course the world moves on and we dwell in a constantly changing climate of opinion. But the broad principles and truths of wise and sane political actions do not necessarily alter with the changing moods of a democratic electorate. Not everything changes. Two and two still make four, and I could give you many other instances which go to prove that all wisdom is not new wisdom." - Winston Churchill, speech, Bele vue, Manchester, December 6, 1947.

"It is not Parliament that should rule; it is the people who should rule through Parliament." - Winston Churchill, speech, House of Commons. November 11, 1947.

"We have to combat the wolf of socialism, and we shall be able to do it far more effectively as a pack of hounds than as a flock of sheep." - Winston Churchill, speech, 1937.

:Athough it is now put forward in the main by people who have a good grounding in the Liberalism and Radicalism of the early part of this century, there can be no doubt that Socialism is inseparably interwoven with Totalitarianism and the abject worship of the State. It is not alone that property, in all its forms, is struck at, but that liberty, in all its forms, is challenged by the fundamental conceptions of Socialism." - Winston Churchill, B.B.C radio address, June 4, 1945.

"The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent vice of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries." - Winston Churchill, House of Commons, October 22, 1945.

"Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy." - Winston Churchill, Perth, May 28, 1948.

"I do not wonder that British youth is in revolt against the morbid doctrine that nothing matters but the equal sharing of miseries: that what used to be called the submerged tenth can only be rescued by bringing the other nine-tenths down to their level; against the folly that it is better that everyone should have half rations rather than that any by their exertions, or ability, should earn a second helping." - Winston Churchill, London, June 22, 1948.

"Socialism is based on the idea of an all-powerful State which owns everything, which plans everything, which distributes everything, and thus through its politicians and officials decides the daily life of the individual citizen." - Winston Churchill, London, January 21, 1950.

"The British and Americans do not war with races or governments as such. Tyranny, external or internal, is our foe whatever trappings and disguises it wears, whatever language it speaks, or perverts." - Winston Churchill, Speech, Dorchester Hotel, London, July 4, 1953.

"You may try to destroy wealth, and find that all you have done is to increase poverty." - Winston Churchill, speech, House of Commons. March 12, 1947.

"Nor should it be supposed as you would imagine, to read some of the Left-wing newspaper, that all Americans are multi-millionaires of Wall Street. If they were all multi-millionaires that would be no reason for condemning a system which has produced such material results.: - Winston Churchill, speech, Royal Albert Hall, London. April 21, 1948.

"Rich men, although valuable to the revenue, are not vital to a healthy state of society, but a society in which rich men are got rid of, from motives of jealousy, is not a healthy state." - Winston Churchill, speech, House of Commons, April 24, 1950.


20 posted on 05/31/2015 9:34:42 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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