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Video: Carly Fiorina on how she would fight ISIS
Hotair ^ | 05/28/2015 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 05/28/2015 6:34:55 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: silverleaf

What do the ‘good guys’ there have to say about going against the commands of their Koran about infidels?

You can trust words. Taquuya says they can lie. I don’t trust their words.


41 posted on 05/28/2015 7:40:09 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: SeekAndFind

LOL She wants to help the Turks topple Assad... How clueless... The Turks have a huge stake in creating ISIS.


42 posted on 05/28/2015 7:41:00 PM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: bigbob
Rubbish. As CEO she took the hit but she had the HP Board behind every move she made. Find a new excuse.

You're dead wrong. She botched the HP/Compaq "merger" (really an acquisition of Compaq by HP) which cost thirty-thousand of HP and Compaq employees their jobs.

Both HP and Compaq were Enterprise Class Leading vendors in their space. Fiorina decided that wasn't good enough, and changed their focus to consumer products, mostly pc's, printers, and digital camera's. She spun off the Medical Devices unit (which was WILDLY profitable for HP) and then ran that into the ground too. How bad was her performance? Things got so bad for H-P that in 2002, Arianna Packard, granddaughter of founder David Packard joined with Bill Hewlett, Walter Hewlett’s son, in a proxy fight to oust Fiorina. That moved failed, but in 2005, Fiorina was finally fired, and given a $20-million dollar settlement to just go away. In response H-P’ stock price bounced back by 10% in a single day. About Fiorina’s service at H-P Arianna Packard wrote, “I know a little bit about Carly Fiorina, having watched her almost destroy the company my grandfather founded.”

Would you like to hear about how she wrecked Bell Labs Research Laboratory before she wrecked HP? Sure, I knew you would!

For those unfamiliar with the Bell Labs, it was Ma Bell's gift to America, a place where monopoly telephone service was offset by a research business that employed over 25,000 scientists, engineers, mathematicians and researchers.

At the Bell Labs, research was considered an end unto itself, where, according to one executive, “you did something useful or you do something very beautiful.” The realm of the former included such immensely important breakthroughs as the transistor, the silicon microprocessor, the laser, fiber optics, the communications satellite, the UNIX and C++ computer operating systems. In the pursuit of improved communications, serendipity occurred such as in the form of the confirmation of the “Big Bang” theory which won physicist Arno Penzias a 1977 Nobel Prize. Penzias, the retired Bell Labs vice-president for research, put it best when he said that “one of the great luxuries of the Bell Labs is that we don’t always need to get it right.” The Labs did get it right enough to amass more than 25,000 patents.

That all began changing in 1995 when a corporate team that included Carly Fiorina descended on the Bell Labs and began to pull the plug on pure research. According to Penzias, then clearly on the way out, “today we have an environment of interaction, while it is still collegial you now live with business-people.”

A key member of that latter group was Carly Fiorina who lead the housecleaning which let the scientists at Lucent know that they had better start looking for ways to “productize” their research. In 1997, Fiorina was appointed group president for global services and two years later, joined Hewlett-Packard.

What she left behind at Lucent/Bell Labs was a smoking ruin of what had been the world’s most important and productive research lab, an entity largely responsible for giving America the post-World War II boost that helped make the nation the world technology leader, contributing mightily to the prosperity that Americans took for granted but which came in no small measure from the pure research as practiced at the Bell Labs. By insisting that every piece of research be tied to a product, Fiorina and her ilk helped prevent a new generation of scientists from looking out over the far horizon and bringing back the kind of benefits that have come from such then-seemingly useless technologies including the transistor, laser, fiber optics.

It is not "rubbish" that she "took the hit" as CEO -- SHE DID THE DAMAGE. When you're paid $20 million to "just leave" that's not because you did a good job. That was the price for HP to get rid of Carly Fiorina and her incompetence.

43 posted on 05/28/2015 7:46:04 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Lurker

HP was dead when she arrived


44 posted on 05/28/2015 7:46:19 PM PDT by Kozy
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To: boycott

“I don’t know why others on here don’t like her.”

She is GOPe. She was on team Romney, a co-Chair of his campaign, saying only he could beat Obama etc...She’s a former RNC finance Chair. She was the Rove candidate in her 2010 Senate campaign.

Did you know these things?

I don’t dislike what she is doing so far, but I have no illusions that she is not in the race as a GOPe RNC team player.


45 posted on 05/28/2015 7:48:23 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: SeekAndFind
Cara Carleton Fiorina

Born September 6, 1954 in Austin, TX (Meets the Jus Soli Requirement)

Parents were
Joseph Tyree Sneed, III, born in TX
Madelon Montross Juergens, born in OH

Both parents were US Citizens at the time of her birth (Meets the Jus Sanguinis Requirement)

Cara Carleton Fiorina is a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN

46 posted on 05/28/2015 7:48:29 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Mossberg 930 SPX)
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To: entropy12

Read Post #43,specifically about the damage she did to Bell Labs and try telling me that again.


47 posted on 05/28/2015 7:50:12 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Norm Lenhart

Well the president of Egypt called for a reformation of Islam and Egypt just sentenced that lunatic Morsi to death

So I would say the Egyptians have been and should continue to be people we can work with

Besides they thwarted obama ‘s plan for a jihadist Egypt and caused untold heartburn to the sweet mint tea drinkers at our department of state- so. OOO RA for Egypt

Ditto with the Kurds and I’ll give Abdullah a pass too as a pragmatist not a western hating goathumper


48 posted on 05/28/2015 7:50:14 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: silverleaf

Yea but their book commands them to lie to the infidel in order to become strong and defeat them.

So there ya go.


49 posted on 05/28/2015 7:52:52 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: ifinnegan
She is GOPe. She was on team Romney, a co-Chair of his campaign, saying only he could beat Obama etc...She’s a former RNC finance Chair. She was the Rove candidate in her 2010 Senate campaign.

All true. Here's what else is true: She's in this race to be a foil against Hillary Clinton.

That's it. She has no illusions she can win, so what's in all this for Carly Fiorina?

That's the question. What's her payoff?

50 posted on 05/28/2015 7:54:00 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Impy; ifinnegan
I agree that Jeannie Pirro is to the left of Fiorina, and lionized by useful idiot conservatives even more. It's pretty much the same idiocy that attracts people to Donald Trump -- shallow viewers who don't care how much of a RINO someone has been throughout their career, as long as that person goes on TV and throws 'em lots of red meat and promises to "expose" Obama/Hillary

Also agree that Fiorina is very unlikely to get the nomination, and I don't see that changing any time soon.

The problem here is the drumbeat that is being stirred up to put squishy RINOs like Fiorina in a cabinet post or a heartbeat away from the presidency in the veep slot. I think THAT is a very likely scenario and my response would be hell no to either scenario. Fiorina wouldn't be helpful on the ticket and the number of conservatives who are unfamiliar with her past and see her as some type of female Rush Limbaugh is disturbing. I remember the ridiculous "Demon Sheep" ad in her Senate race, the "FioRINO" stuff when more conservative candidates were forced out of the race, and her being tied to the hip of McCain & Romney. All that is being whitewashed from history in favor of a new, media-created image of her as a "fearless conservative" savior.

If the only thing she does in this campaign is "attack Hillary" I have no objection. Go for it, Carly!

But the purpose to get her into a major government post she doesn't deserve is far more troubling.

51 posted on 05/28/2015 7:56:11 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: ifinnegan

Abortion +
Climate Change +
Immigration +
Economy +
Same sex marriage and LGBT rights +
Unabashed Christian +

I am finding more positives than negatives.

Rove candidate in California means little to me. Not likely many republicans could have even made it a race.

Again, I’ll admit that I don’t know much about her. I was leaning Cruz but the TPP thing has me a little upset with him.


52 posted on 05/28/2015 8:00:08 PM PDT by boycott
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To: entropy12

She did that well. I don’t know if its off the cuff or talking points but her delivery was right on the mark.


53 posted on 05/28/2015 8:03:22 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: boycott

“was leaning Cruz but the TPP thing has me a little upset with him.”

You don’t know much about her then. She very much supports globalization, outsourcing jobs etc...

And she did it as CEO of a multi-national.

I’m not arguing pro or con on that issue, but if that is an issue that bothers you, she would not be your candidate.


54 posted on 05/28/2015 8:04:26 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: BillyBoy; AuH2ORepublican; Clintonfatigued; fieldmarshaldj; sickoflibs; GOPsterinMA; SunkenCiv

VP, I agree, I don’t want her there. And ultimately I don’t think she’s a likely choice.

Cabinet post like Sec of Commerce or something, meh, I don’t see that as being harmful. Sec of Commerce doesn’t do anything.

Sec of Treasury OTOH, she has mused about that job (back in ‘12). She wouldn’t be on my shortlist for that position. We desperately need a top notch operator in that spot, after Obama’s minions and the liberal scuzz that Bush put in there, O’Neil, shudder.


55 posted on 05/28/2015 8:07:25 PM PDT by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: Norm Lenhart
First, don’t elect a person that nearly destroyed 2 companies.

HP's board of directors pushed the Compaq merger. I was there. The board told that to us in company meetings. They made it very clear it was there intention to do so before they hired Carly. She was brought in to make it happen.

56 posted on 05/28/2015 8:10:12 PM PDT by 5thGenTexan
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To: usconservative
"The result of her disastrous "leadership" was that tens of thousands of HP and Compaq employees lost their jobs"

It was the dot-com bubble, everyone in the industry was shedding jobs, the ones that didn't, disappeared. She had the guts to lay people off, and that is BADLY needed at the White House. And HP is still going.

57 posted on 05/28/2015 8:10:40 PM PDT by cookcounty ("I was a Democrat until I learned to count" --Maine Gov. Paul LePage)
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To: BillyBoy; sickoflibs; AuH2ORepublican; GOPsterinMA; NFHale

BTW Poltics1 is reporting that Trump is serious (not series, serious) this time. That he will run, for real.

Somehow I still don’t believe it.


58 posted on 05/28/2015 8:10:51 PM PDT by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: Norm Lenhart

So which infidel weapons would you prefer they have to kill isis?

Ours? Russia’s? Or China’s?


59 posted on 05/28/2015 8:11:26 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: Lurker

“Carly is a fool. And she ran HP into the ground.”

I second that... I wouldn’t vote for her as dog catcher. (I worked for her BTW)


60 posted on 05/28/2015 8:11:37 PM PDT by babygene (.)
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