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Exclusive: Russia masses heavy firepower on border with Ukraine - witness
reuters.com ^ | May 27, 2015 | Maria Tsvetkova

Posted on 05/28/2015 2:36:22 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

Russia's army is massing troops and hundreds of pieces of weaponry including mobile rocket launchers, tanks and artillery at a makeshift base near the border with Ukraine, a Reuters reporter saw this week.

Many of the vehicles have number plates and identifying marks removed while many of the servicemen had taken insignia off their fatigues. As such, they match the appearance of some of the forces spotted in eastern Ukraine, which Kiev and its Western allies allege are covert Russian detachments.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: communism; crimea; donetsk; military; obama; putin; putinsbuttboys; russia; ukraine; vladtheimploder; waronterror
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More war crimes on the way from Soviet Putin.
1 posted on 05/28/2015 2:36:22 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper
What is happening in Ukraine has already happened in Iraq and is extremely likely to happen in the sea around China, America, dithering without a coherent policy, is forced to be passive or, worse, reactive rather than proactive.

The time to have coped with Russia's aggression in Ukraine is long past just as the time to cope with Iraq has passed. What will Obama do about China?

We already know if history is prelude.


2 posted on 05/28/2015 3:02:54 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford

Agreed


3 posted on 05/28/2015 3:08:00 AM PDT by StoneWall Brigade
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To: nathanbedford

Poland is readying its military. They will fight like badgers if it comes to it.


4 posted on 05/28/2015 3:12:03 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: nathanbedford

South Korean news reports on chinas build up regularly. They appear convinced a war is coming.


5 posted on 05/28/2015 3:28:55 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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Expect full on war, on multiple fronts, in six months. Russian expansion, Chinese expansion, ISIS & Arab Spring expansion, any other conquests you can think of. USA won’t do a damn thing to stop it because that’s what the Obama wants to happen. Six months top get it all underway, one year wrap up the winnings until a new President takes office and may do something effective to stop it.


6 posted on 05/28/2015 3:45:32 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Hillary:polarizing/calculating/disingenuous/insincere/ambitious/inevitable/entitled/overconfident/se)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

If I remember correctly, under the Geneva Convention anyone without full military uniform, complete with identifying insignias, can be shot as a spy.


7 posted on 05/28/2015 3:53:42 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
If they get killed in Ukraine, Putin has them burned to ashes to hide the evidence.

http://www.jpost.com/International/Report-Russia-using-mobile-crematoria-to-burn-its-casualties-in-Ukraine-conflict-404309

8 posted on 05/28/2015 4:03:00 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: nathanbedford

You can’t call Russia a “JV Team”.


9 posted on 05/28/2015 4:28:37 AM PDT by Nextrush ( FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS, DON'T BE PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: elhombrelibre

Russia just passed the law saying that even peace time military casualties is a state secret.

They were threatening the families of those dead anyway. Now it means they can threaten them with a long prison sentence.


10 posted on 05/28/2015 5:06:44 AM PDT by Krosan
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To: ctdonath2

This really makes a lot of sense when you think about it. Our enemies have and will continue to take advantage of our weak leadership, timed to reach goals prior to the next election in 2016, if there is one. Timing is essential for maximum benefit. Too soon and we will not be as weak, and too late and a new administration might complicate those plans. Late 2015 to mid 2016 will be the window of opportunity to move against the U.S.

Expect more engineered social unrest in the U.S., possibly an economic crisis dwarfing the one in 2008 (like a monetary collapse) all while our POTUS tries to make it appear global warming our only external threat, as he cripples the U.S. Economy with carbon taxes, possibly bringing on the economic crisis.
-BRICs nations will pry the dollar out of the reserve currency status, and the petrodollar status.
-China moves on Taiwan and its expansion seaward with artificial islands will test our resolve.
-North Korea,,,well obviously,
-Russia moves in Eastern Europe. NATO could be dissolved if we don’t as an alliance defend even the smallest of our new Eastern European NATO partners. Would Obama trade New York for Lithuania? Probably not...


11 posted on 05/28/2015 7:21:07 AM PDT by Wildbill22 (They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton Williams Abrams)
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To: ctdonath2
Expect full on war, on multiple fronts, in six months. Russian expansion, Chinese expansion, ISIS & Arab Spring expansion, any other conquests you can think of. USA won’t do a damn thing to stop it because that’s what the Obama wants to happen. Six months top get it all underway, one year wrap up the winnings until a new President takes office and may do something effective to stop it.

With any luck it will go nuclear and the entire world will be devoid of any life whatsoever. Exterminate Earth.

12 posted on 05/28/2015 7:23:47 AM PDT by Lazamataz (America has less than a year left.)
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To: Lazamataz

Full on nuclear war wouldn’t have a “winner” or would at least be very painful for the winner.

I suspect a mystery sea launched missile or five launched from the south Atlantic, Gulf of Mexico, or South Pacific which will EMP the continental U.S. Ending in 90% dead over the course of a year or two (read One Seconf After).
That will be shortly after the 2016 election, again, if there is one.


13 posted on 05/28/2015 7:37:51 AM PDT by Wildbill22 (They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton Williams Abrams)
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To: Lazamataz

“With any luck it will go nuclear and the entire world will be devoid of any life whatsoever. Exterminate Earth.”

I have had reservations about the premise that full scale nuclear war would “end all life on earth”, particularly with today’s reduced arsenals; the weapons ready to use today only number about 4000 on both sides, and many of those would not survive to be used in a coordinated attack by either side. There would definitely be survivors, and surviving nations.

Remember, the U.S. and Russia have tested over a couple thousand warheads and the world seems no worse long term.

My point is that our enemies, like Russia and China, might not share our defeatist premises regarding the un-win ability of nuclear conflict.


14 posted on 05/28/2015 7:51:12 AM PDT by Wildbill22 (They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton Williams Abrams)
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To: Wildbill22
I have had reservations about the premise that full scale nuclear war would “end all life on earth”, particularly with today’s reduced arsenals; the weapons ready to use today only number about 4000 on both sides, and many of those would not survive to be used in a coordinated attack by either side. There would definitely be survivors, and surviving nations.

Aw crap. I wanted to see the complete extermination of the human race. No way should we be allowed to infest any other planets. We must be destroyed, as an inferior race.

STERILIZE

STERILIZE

STERILIZE

15 posted on 05/28/2015 8:05:48 AM PDT by Lazamataz (America has less than a year left.)
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To: Wildbill22

I’m pretty emphatic about all this happening _this_year_. Takes time to follow such a campaign thru to the end, and there’s a bunch of mopping-up to do afterwards to solidify the achievements and buttress them from newcomers undoing it all. (Remember: post-9/11 Iraq War was over in one week flat, but took years to re-fill the power vacuum (which the Obama then vacated, but that’s a different thread).)

They have to assume, just as a matter of pragmatic mitigation, the next US president will be a world-order superpower-restoring hard-liner who would have no qualms about launching full-on multi-front wars to fulfill the obligations we’ve neglected and which they’re taking advantage of, and he’d initiate those wars promptly upon inauguration. By that date, they’d better have total & pervasive control of whatever they’re going to control (Russia re-take the Eastern Bloc, China take Taiwan and otherwise expand control, and the others you note except North Korea which couldn’t survive anything), and reaching that point of stable domination will take about a year - so if anyone is going to do anything, they’d better at least START in 2015, if not have their various invasions etc completed by this December. Come January 2016 it will be too late for assured lasting victory; they could still pull off conquests starting in 2016, but face rapidly diminishing odds of retaining those wins.

...unless Hillary, Bernie, or the like win in 2016; we’ll see a full-on free-for-all (golly, sounds like the end of some old book I read somewhere...).


16 posted on 05/28/2015 8:17:37 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Hillary:polarizing/calculating/disingenuous/insincere/ambitious/inevitable/entitled/overconfident/se)
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To: Lazamataz

I recall my rather interesting high-school chemistry teacher detailing the concept of doomsday weapons. Seems a mid-sized nuke packed with cobalt would do the job quite well...


17 posted on 05/28/2015 8:19:25 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Hillary:polarizing/calculating/disingenuous/insincere/ambitious/inevitable/entitled/overconfident/se)
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To: ctdonath2
Let's pull the plug. Humanity is not worth saving.

God was wrong.

18 posted on 05/28/2015 8:57:29 AM PDT by Lazamataz (America has less than a year left.)
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To: The_Victor
If I remember correctly, under the Geneva Convention anyone without full military uniform, complete with identifying insignias, can be shot as a spy.

I doubt it, I've served in a unit that was designated for sterile uniforms in war, no unit patches or scrolls, and no badges, but still an American military uniform.

19 posted on 05/28/2015 9:45:42 AM PDT by ansel12
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I doubt it, I've served in a unit that was designated for sterile uniforms in war, no unit patches or scrolls, and no badges, but still an American military uniform.

Might be one of the Hollywood "facts" that I'm remembering from some obscure movie.

20 posted on 05/28/2015 9:48:29 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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