Posted on 05/26/2015 12:22:21 PM PDT by elhombrelibre
Russia is using crematoriums on wheels to burn the bodies of its soldiers who die fighting alongside pro-Russian separatists in Eastern Ukraine, Bloomberg's Josh Rogin reports.
“The Russians are trying to hide their casualties by taking mobile crematoriums with them,” House Armed Services Committee Chairman Mac Thornberry told Rogin. “They are trying to hide not only from the world but from the Russian people their involvement.”
The mobile crematoriums — which burn about eight to 10 bodies a day, according to Ukraine security service chief Valentyn Nalyvaichenko — reveal how far Russia is willing to go to hide its military presence in the war.
"Every day, the hotline of the Security Service of Ukraine records a great of number of calls from dozens of Russian citizens who are looking for their relatives or Russian soldiers who have been sent to the territory of Ukraine," Nalyvaichenko said in January.
The Kremlin has denied involvement in Ukraine ever since Russian special forces occupied the Ukrainian peninsula of Crimea in February 2014.
(Excerpt) Read more at uk.businessinsider.com ...
In Before the Putin Boot Licking Lap Dogs.
Doesn’t this infuriate the families of the dead soldiers? Is Putin so powerful that the families are afraid to complain publicly?
Oh that sounds like a sustainable strategy.
The USSR routinely un-personed military people who were killed because of screw-ups. Particularly true of the submarine service.
There’s a video somewhere in YouTube of one of the mothers of a young submariner who died on the Kursk being jabbed with a syringe by “attendants” while she was addressing (angrily) the investigating board.
“....Is Putin so powerful that the families are afraid to complain publicly?”
Without a doubt.
Yes, he’s that powerful. He shoots journalists, charges opposition leaders with corruption and jails them, he charges any opposition to him as being a gay conspiracy, and he blocks all real reporting. He may face more pressure, but his KGB soul will prevail unless more than the victims families act.
Who's deaths are being hidden by Putin? Well, he's probably not having to hide the deaths of other country's soldiers, unless you know something about Belarus involvement.
Weekend-at-Bernie’s-type extreme lengths?
“Doesn’t this infuriate the families of the dead soldiers? Is Putin so powerful that the families are afraid to complain publicly?”
Not about this particular issue. The families DO find out they died and receive the ashes. Where, when and how they died is classified but the families accept that as part of national security.
I can 100% guarantee the same is done for highly classified missions in the USA when someone dies. Sometimes even to the point of keeping the body classified by cremating (to hide classified wounds, poisons, external DNA, etc).
Who are you talking about? I thought that Premier STALIN had died many years ago. I think the NEW dictator is a closet fan of the old one. Same beliefs and actions.
Sounds like a reputable source. Alot of propaganda coming out of Ukraine now. Trust But Verify someone once said.
The Russians did the same thing to hide the soldiers who were dying in Afghanistan...until the dead soldiers showed up at the Kremlin and raised a stink in public. I guess they will need to show up again.
“We heard this from a variety of sources over there, enough that I was confident in the veracity of the information,” Moulton said, also being careful not to disclose classified U.S. intelligence.
Both Thornberry and Moulton agreed with Vershbow's assessment that Russian President Vladimir Putin was struggling to keep up the ruse that he has no soldiers fighting inside Ukraine. Moulton said the mounting evidence of dead Russian soldiers is causing a domestic backlash for Putin. Russian and Ukrainian bloggers and activists have been compiling lists of Russian soldiers killed in Ukraine, including details of their service and circumstances of their deaths. New organizations in Russia representing soldiers’ families have sprung up to publicly challenge Putin's narrative."
http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-05-26/putin-burns-his-dead-to-hide-ukraine-aggression
That’s only 3,000 young men per year. That’s about the average weekend in Chicago, isn’t it?
No, this one will be avoided like the plague; it’s macabre.
Thanks elhombrelibre.
Thornberry said he had seen evidence of the crematoriums from both U.S. and Ukrainian sources. He said he could not disclose details of classified information, but insisted that he believed the reports.I'm waiting for the artsy drawings, akin to the 'mobile chemical weapons labs' circa 2002...THEN I'll believe it w/o proof.
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Oh, wait: It's been TWEETED. It MUST be true! /s/s
We won't believe Russian 'propaganda', but we're to believe Bloomberg news, based on 'sources'.
I don't see the difference...
Unequivocally YES!
One of the articles cites Belarus first reporting this but that said, you don’t know if it could be some sort of intelligence trick at that.
http://www.businessinsider.com/russia-using-mobile-crematoriums-in-ukraine-2015-5 (please see Belarus mentioned under photograph)
So on one hand, wait for further confirmation, it is such a strange story, sometimes truth is stranger than fiction as they say.
Maybe there is another explanation, I admit, it is very macabre.
My take is Russia is being ruled by committee anyway and that Putin is largely a perfunctory figurehead, I really don’t think he is calling all of the shots.
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