Years ago, I was having a discussion with my niece on gun control. When it became pitifully obvious her young skull full of mush had no leg to stand on, she looked at my mom and said “grandma, make him stop arguing with me. “ my mom said “he’s not arguing, he’s trying to have a discussion. “
I was having a “discussion” on guns and gun control with a lib niece. When I finally said she should put a sign on her house saying that it was “gun free”, she finally shut up.