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To: humblegunner

I’m kind of torn where to come down on this.
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I am too. The number of dead and wounded seems VERY high for a normal Biker tiff. It would NOT surprise me if one, or more, or the cops panicked and started “spraying and praying” with their automatic weapons. Some cops don’t have the greatest judgement or fire discipline. And it seems some cops automatically start to blast away as soon as another cop opens fire.

If they did the crime scene investigation right they would have included the location of the firing cops in the crime scene to determine who all fired and how many shots were fired by each weapon. I’d be willing to wager this was not done but maybe I’ll be pleasantly surprised. I certainly hope that all recovered bullets from the dead and wounded are collected, tagged, kept as evidence and subjected to ballistic tests along with the relevant firearms (both Biker and Cop weapons).


42 posted on 05/19/2015 12:29:54 PM PDT by House Atreides (CRUZ or lose!)
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To: House Atreides

FWIW, they are still investigating the crime scene.


53 posted on 05/19/2015 12:45:14 PM PDT by Clay Moore (Keep JRandomFreeper in you prayers)
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To: House Atreides

” Some cops don’t have the greatest judgement or fire discipline. And it seems some cops automatically start to blast away as soon as another cop opens fire.”

Because what you said is a known fact in so many cases, it strikes me that it’s a known risk you take when riding with a biker who is so stupid as to pull a gun in the presence of nervous cops at the ready.

The other bikers should have broken this fight up at the first moment, in the bathroom. It is possible that a few of these bikers are too stupid for words.

A so called “family restaurant” in a shopping mall full of Texans who don’t want to be intimidated while eating, by a bathroom brawl and a gang full of bearded boobs in leather and chains is a factor for consideration at their next biker convention.


58 posted on 05/19/2015 12:49:07 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: House Atreides; Travis McGee; Squantos; Pelham; CatherineofAragon

You really think the cops will blame themselves if they overreacted?

They never do why start now?

That cop in South Carolina would be walking free had he not been recorded murdering that man

It’s too early to tell but I see loads of questions here based on fatalities and scene photos and circumstances that frankly give me reason to suspect at least a little the official version aped so far by police spokesman Swanton(sic) and the media reports which have been about the same ver batim for two days

Questioning police behavior is not indicative of jackshite except one has a desire for and appreciation of empirical truth

A pillar of Burkian conservatism

A notion lost on some here


61 posted on 05/19/2015 12:49:33 PM PDT by wardaddy (Dems hate western civilization and GOP are cowards...We are headed to a dark place)
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To: House Atreides

Bikers primed for a tiff don’t book a restaurant venue. All the evidence I have seen is that this was intended as a peaceful get-together by an established biker coalition.

I have no idea of the initiating event, but I do think that like Ferguson, the unbiased forensic investigation will show that ALL lethal wounds were inflicted by police forces.


323 posted on 05/21/2015 3:29:54 AM PDT by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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