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BIKER TRUTHERS EMERGE CALLING WACO SHOOTOUT A ‘POLICE MASSACRE’
BREITBART BIG GOVERNMENT ^ | MAY 19, 2015 | LEE STRANAHAN

Posted on 05/19/2015 11:59:21 AM PDT by onyx

A website widely read by bikers called “The Aging Rebel” has published an alternative account of what happened during Sunday’s bloody shootout in Waco, Texas. The article titled The Waco Police Massacre brings out a number of details not previously published and also presents the controversial theory that event was essentially a police ambush.


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 1percenters; agingrebel; bikers; copcycle; ihatecops; texas; tinfoiledagain; twinpeaks; waco; wacotexas
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To: wardaddy

Thank you! I’m so glad there’s at least one FReeper who can appreciate the nuances of this event. Something just doesn’t add up. If one dares to voice that opinion; there’s an immediate pile-on.

I, myself, don’t advocate mass killings by law enforcement. I’m also not in agreement with the current demonizing of police. But if the tactics used in Texas on the bikers worked and is acceptable, take it to the inner city as well.

I too see a time coming when, if given a choice, I would want a mean SOB on my side rather than a panty waist Liberal posie. But that’s just me. Common sense sometimes isn’t pretty or pc. A thug is a thug is a thug, but nowadays there seems to be a lot of disparity in how they’re dealt with and there’s no mystery as to why. But still, some can’t see the obvious diversion that was planned here.


301 posted on 05/20/2015 6:17:20 AM PDT by Aleya2Fairlie
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To: caww

“....the cops are paid to protect the public from these a-holes”

It’s too bad everyone doesn’t feel that way. It sure would have saved a lot of rioting, looting and burning. It would have saved some police officers lives too.


302 posted on 05/20/2015 6:23:59 AM PDT by Aleya2Fairlie
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To: Smokin' Joe

“You can’t just say the Constitution only applies to some but not to others. Before long, you’ll be burning church groups in their homes.”

And where have you been living? We’re a long way down that road.


303 posted on 05/20/2015 6:35:56 AM PDT by Aleya2Fairlie
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To: wardaddy
I>"I smell fear"

Yep.

304 posted on 05/20/2015 6:39:09 AM PDT by semaj (.People get ready, Jesus is coming!)
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To: ansel12

You have listened to some bikers and have some practical knowledge of how they operate and think. In caww-speak; that means “biased”.


305 posted on 05/20/2015 6:43:52 AM PDT by Aleya2Fairlie
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To: wardaddy
"Martin Lewis [Suspect in Waco shoot-out is revealed to be a retired DETECTIVE], pictured top left, is a retired San Antonio Police Department detective who served on the force for 32 years before he retired in February 2014, the department in a statement released on Tuesday. Legal experts are predicting that many of those already charged with engaging in organized crime may not go to trial simply because of the expense that would be involved with so many suspects. 'The magnitude of the arrests is amazing. It could break the bank in McLennan County,' said former federal prosecutor Michael Heiskell. Police in Texas remain on alert after the Cossacks and Bandidos motorcycle gangs, logos inset, allegedly issued orders to shoot and kill uniformed law enforcement officers."

Martin Lewis was one of the bikers. LOL!

LOL! Even with the money from the stolen morocycles, they might not be able to prosecute!

306 posted on 05/20/2015 6:44:09 AM PDT by kiryandil (Egging the battleship USS Sarah Palin from their little Progressive rowboats...)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

That is what I’m thinking CWB. Is this part of a Jade Helm exercise?

Also if there was a big brawl outside, why so many motorcycles standing upright and not toppled.

Also don’t you find odd to find Hearses parked in the lot? I thought bodies are suppose to be carried into a coroner van.

I agree something is just not right but we can’t seem to pinpoint exactly what.

Last night on Fox News, again they reported the brawl started outside in the parking lot and spilled inside.
So now the story changed. First in the bathroom and spilled out NOW it is reverse.


307 posted on 05/20/2015 7:09:02 AM PDT by Patriot Babe
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To: wardaddy

I despise those who claim to be Americans yet whimsically support organized State mass murder for”others” that they don’t like. Never appreciating that ditches, gunfire and piled naked corpses can end up being them, too, once it gets started.


308 posted on 05/20/2015 7:27:18 AM PDT by Robert Teesdale (III% | 4GW)
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To: Aleya2Fairlie
Right here in the US. If we're a long way down that road (and we are uncomfortably far along) it is high time we turned back.

When "conservatives" advocate continuing in the direction we are going because they happen not to like the people involved, we have a problem.

Gerry Spence represented Randy Weaver pro bono, not because he agreed with Weaver's beliefs, but because he agreed his rights had been violated.

If the rest of us won't stand up for all of our Rights, we all will be ground under the jackboot heel of tyranny one 'objectionable group' after another--because someone can always be found to find someone else 'objectionable'.

309 posted on 05/20/2015 7:59:03 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe; kiryandil

My post wasn’t related to the event or the police, it was an unrelated description of the 1960s Bandidos when I was around them.

As kiryandil brought up, I doubt that anyone could steal motorcycles by the truckload, today.


310 posted on 05/20/2015 8:30:44 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: Aleya2Fairlie

Bikers are not a protected species who vote lockstep for Dems.

They will therefore not ever be accorded the same hands-off policy as other...’groups’.


311 posted on 05/20/2015 8:53:06 AM PDT by Salamander (Like acid and oil on a madman's face, reason tends to fly away.)
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To: Patriot Babe

Perhaps they’re still trying to figure out which version plays best.

Bread and circuses.


312 posted on 05/20/2015 8:55:51 AM PDT by Salamander (Like acid and oil on a madman's face, reason tends to fly away.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

That attitude is rampant, here.

“And there was no one left to speak for me...”


313 posted on 05/20/2015 8:59:41 AM PDT by Salamander (Like acid and oil on a madman's face, reason tends to fly away.)
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To: lapsus calami

You offer nothing but ad hominum

Not a serious poster here in my view

Not one iota of observance or fact in your post

Just petulant I disagree and you suck verbiage

Anyone can do that


314 posted on 05/20/2015 9:05:12 AM PDT by wardaddy (Dems hate western civilization and GOP are cowards...We are headed to a dark place)
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To: Aleya2Fairlie

Trust me on this after 15 years here

Nuance is beyond the grasp of many here

They like it simple

And worse

Safe

And they work in packs

Always have but its a lot better than it used to be

I could give you inside baseball info here from my history that you would claim I’m lying

Freeperlife is about a clearinghouse of news and info and finding likeminded pals and before there was a good bit of conservative activism thrown in too

But the rest is just online posting bravado and smack talk behind the wall of anonymity

Very few folks here give a frame of reference like I do or you do on your homepage

The more coarse and nasty they are the less they give up about what they are

That’s not a coincidence

Nice to see you


315 posted on 05/20/2015 9:15:15 AM PDT by wardaddy (Dems hate western civilization and GOP are cowards...We are headed to a dark place)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

....”The hell’s angels (and their associates) have a powerful PR machine and they have countless apologists painting them as something they are not”......

The Mafia tried to present itself as so called good Catholics oftentimes gave to the church considerable donations etc. That’s because when you know you may face a jury some day you need to build a little goodwill to flaunt.

Image and perception are front and center today. Not what really is, but what you can make people think it is.... Al Capone hosted childen’s Christmas parties for the under-priviledged kids in his neighborhood in Chicago too. Much like the BS charitable work these Biker thugs do.

It’s all just a cover for their drug dealing and human trafficking and all their other criminal activity.


316 posted on 05/20/2015 9:16:01 AM PDT by caww
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To: wardaddy
...."Very few folks here give a frame of reference like I do".....


317 posted on 05/20/2015 9:33:30 AM PDT by caww
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To: Patriot Babe
...”reported the brawl started outside in the parking lot and spilled inside....So now the story changed. First in the bathroom and spilled out NOW it is reverse.”....

Actually beginning in the parking lot, then they continued the dispute while in the bathroom which then spilled out to the restaurant..then spilling out to the parking lot is not hard to understand.

318 posted on 05/20/2015 9:38:24 AM PDT by caww
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To: wardaddy

No, don’t discount all of it as just bravado and smack talk. There are some genuine ideological underpinnings to it all, reflecting folks’ views of how the country and the culture operates. It’s interesting stuff to vent over.

Personally, as I now see a country I no longer recognize nor feel any particular connection to, I do reflect back a lot on the history of how and why so much of the nation was strong and secure. And more and more, I come to the conclusion it didn’t have as much to do with the Constitution or the Bill of Rights or the rule of law, but the fact that people were violent hardasses who did everything they could to protect their immediate communities. Technology and the media have long since driven the predominant cultural mindset away from ‘community’ into national/global worldviews, but I still like to vicariously interpret scenarios the way my take-no-guff ancestors did. Because I know in the long run, they had the right keys to survival.


319 posted on 05/20/2015 9:46:07 AM PDT by greene66
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To: wardaddy; Salamander; Pelham
"...meanwhile bikers leave me alone and if my car breaks down in front of their clubhouse my odds are better than in the hood"

This is my belief, too. And as I said elsewhere, if and when it comes down to us, the Muslims, and the illegals, bikers will be on the front lines.

320 posted on 05/20/2015 1:17:55 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office.")
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