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Going to Pot?
Townhall.com ^ | May 17, 2015 | Bruce Bialosky

Posted on 05/17/2015 6:21:56 AM PDT by Kaslin

Bill Bennett, a great American and a great Republican was all over television promoting his new book Going to Pot co-written with Robert A. White. This is a topic I have followed for years and previously written about so I thought I would read the book and hope for an interview with Dr. Bennett. I was unable to land the big fish, but did interview his co-writer for an hour discussing the issue of whether the legalization of marijuana should continue.

I have previously written that the experiment of legalization should go forward in Colorado and Washington and let us see the effects. One of the weaknesses I found in the book and in my discussion with Mr. White is that it is far too early to draw conclusions. Mr. White referred me to a series of articles available on their website (goingtopotbook.com) which were from the Colorado Springs Gazette. I read over 50 pages of columns and came away with the thinking that a lot of what was promised by the politicians in favor of legalization did not come to fruition. Not to be too snarky, but wow what a concept – supporters of an initiative misleading the voters.

A lot this was how much tax would be collected from legalization. There are two clear reasons why more money was not collected and they both go back to the government. First, is that many more people in Colorado are going the medical marijuana route because they do not have to pay the taxes that the other users do going to a regular pot store. Second, there is a burgeoning black market in Colorado again caused by too-high taxes imposed on legal use. What the state of Colorado does not know is how defined the black market was before legalization.

There were two points in the book that we kept going back to in the interview. Repeatedly, the book focuses on the harmful effects of marijuana on individuals 12-17 years old. I brought that fact up to Mr. White and said that the law does not legalize use for kids. I also reminded him what my personal research had concluded from discussions with hundreds of grownups. Before medical marijuana was available, grownups were unable to readily get marijuana, but their children in school had ready access. White said “It is a three-point issue: perception, availability and price.” It is true the perception of legality for those 18 years old and over changes the thought of whether it should be tried for younger people, but it is still illegal. Availability is something we will never know for sure, but it sure seems it was pretty available before formal legalization. The issue of price makes no sense. If the price offered by licensed stores is so attractive then why would there be a black market? The black market must be undercutting the legal prices.

We discussed the issue of potency. White pointed out the potency is not what it was in my college years of the early 1970’s. I told him I was well aware of that. The people that I know with first-hand knowledge of what they are now getting were never quite sure of the potency before medical marijuana or legalization. Second, they have all adjusted their usage.

We then discussed the commercialization of the product which has been done under legalization. Pot is being sold like Hershey bars are sold or any other product. We agreed there certainly is a downside to that happening. As White stated “Like alcohol, 80% is being consumed by 20% of the people.” The commercialization is attracting them to use more and many are abusing.” There is no question that there are people who will abuse and I agreed that with legalization the number may increase. The correct question is: Should the other people who use marijuana intermittently and in low quantities be forced to give up their enjoyment because others cannot control themselves?

White expressed his biggest surprise was how effective the campaign has been to legalize marijuana. He told me that in 1969, 12% of people were for legalization while in 2014 that number had risen to 60%. I pointed out that may be due to people seeing over the past 45 years that the criminalization of pot was counterproductive.

We then discussed the fact that a study posted in the appendix of the book stated 9% of marijuana users were addicts. I attempted to get a good definition of “addict.” Marijuana does not have the same addicting factors as heroin, cocaine or even cigarettes. I stated that the real problem that people are facing today is prescription medications and very cheap heroin that has flooded the market and expanded to the suburbs and colleges. We respectfully disagreed on where the focus should be at this time.

White made the point that the commercialization will drive usage and there is no doubt that the intent of marijuana is to create an altered state of mind -- that is why it is called “getting high.” When I asked White whether he would rather someone come home and have a shot of scotch or smoke marijuana, he clearly stated scotch. I pointed out that the idea of the scotch was for someone to “loosen up” after a day of work. After reading White and Bennett’s book and a prolonged discussion with White, I am no more convinced that marijuana is a major problem on which we should focus outsized resources. I am still convinced if given a choice I would rather see someone use marijuana than alcohol. I still believe we need further time to analyze the effects from the Colorado and Washington legalization of marijuana. But there is no question there will be downsides. The question is, are those downsides worse than having it illegal?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: authorondrugs; cannabis; colorado; drugs; globalwarminghoax; homosexualagenda; libertarians; marijuana; medicalmarijuana; pot; wod
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

Side effects vary by individuals. Although the angel heads who figure that mixing MJ with PCP for a better high are far from calm.


41 posted on 05/18/2015 6:21:33 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

To observe a stoner is a lesion in stupidity.


42 posted on 05/18/2015 7:40:38 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Vaduz

A lesion? Isn’t that a tumor or some kind of skin disease.

Or did you mean “lesson.”


43 posted on 05/18/2015 7:41:40 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Vermont Lt

lesson


44 posted on 05/18/2015 7:45:34 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: zeestephen
One down side, our ultra-Left county council decided we need more diversity in our quiet, crime free neighborhood, so they built a low income-Section 8-homeless apartment building one block away.

They are doing the exact same thing where I live. I expect them to fill the housing with the next wave of refugees to hit the US.

Time to move to Steven's County.

45 posted on 05/18/2015 8:07:53 AM PDT by usurper (Liberals GET OFF MY LAWN)
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To: usurper
You are probably right about that.

Last week at Safeway a family of six Hispanic newbies were standing around a self-serve check-out station while the assistant store manager explained to them, in Spanish, how to scan their food and use their EBT Card.

I thought the 1960”s were insane.

But this - this is premeditated cultural and economic suicide.

46 posted on 05/18/2015 10:17:08 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Kaslin

I detest pot and the people promoting it.

I saw good kids get off track with it when in high school in the late 70’s.
Now my 20 year son thinks he has to use it. It is slowly diminishing him.

I would execute the people selling it if I could find them.


47 posted on 05/18/2015 10:25:14 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland
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To: HereInTheHeartland

For the world of me I can not see how anyone can smoke that stinking weed.


48 posted on 05/18/2015 10:31:22 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: HereInTheHeartland
I would execute the people selling it if I could find them.

In Colorado and Washington you can find their stores using the yellow pages.

49 posted on 05/18/2015 10:46:43 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

What part of “it might tend to make some people more aggressive” do you understand?


50 posted on 05/18/2015 5:00:12 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: driftless2
One of the "positive" benefits of MJ according to its proponents is that, unlike alcohol, it tends to relax users and make them less aggressive. [...] If MJ has a calming effect, why didn't it calm the black males killed in the recent high profile incidents? [emphasis added]

Which part of "tends" did you not understand?

What part of “it might tend to make some people more aggressive” do you understand?

I understand that it's the first time you've made that statement; I also understand that even if true it doesn't contradict the population-wide generalization that pot "tends to relax users and make them less aggressive."

51 posted on 05/19/2015 7:55:43 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: Vermont Lt

Stupidity lesions, you should know all about that.


52 posted on 05/19/2015 7:59:51 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: HereInTheHeartland
I am sorry for your son and especially you. You may have to lick him out of the house. (If you haven't already done so).

Pot is harmless, yeah right. One of the biggest de motivators that there is.

53 posted on 05/19/2015 8:02:47 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: ConservingFreedom
I understand that it's the first time you've made that statement; I also understand that even if true it doesn't contradict the population-wide generalization that pot "tends to relax users and make them less aggressive."

It works the same way for gun control. Being armed tends to make you safer, but for a gun control proponent one instance of someone having their own gun used against them will trump all other evidence.

54 posted on 05/19/2015 8:03:04 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

Maybe it does...I’ve never used the drug first-hand. I’m a pretty calm person. My contention is that maybe MJ calms some groups and not others.


55 posted on 05/19/2015 8:52:42 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: driftless2
My contention is that maybe MJ calms some groups and not others.

Wouldn't shock me - but the calmed group seems to outnumber the uncalmed group.

56 posted on 05/19/2015 9:07:26 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: central_va
Pot is harmless, yeah right.

Who says pot is harmless? Water is not harmless.

57 posted on 05/19/2015 9:09:48 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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