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Speed Control Was Installed, Not On at Time of Amtrak Crash
U.S.News ^ | May 14, 2015 | By Alan Neuhauser

Posted on 05/15/2015 11:16:42 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

A computer system that allows speeding trains to be slowed remotely – potentially averting deadly derailments – was installed in the section of track in Philadelphia where Tuesday’s fatal Amtrak crash occurred but had not been turned on, congressional sources tell U.S. News.

“The PTC was installed in the section of track where the Philadelphia accident occurred, but for whatever reason had not been turned on, the PTC in that section,” Rep. Charlie Dent, R-Pa., tells U.S. News, referring to "positive train control."

His account was corroborated by Rep. Andy Harris, R-Md.

“The tracks had PTC, the train had PTC,” Harris says.

Both congressmen are members of the House Appropriations Committee, which contacted Amtrak for more information about the crash.

The train, Amtrak Northeast Regional 188 from the nation's capital to New York City, was hurtling at more than twice the recommended speed limit when it jumped the tracks just after 9 p.m. Yet the technology that could have slowed it had not been enabled – allegedly because of delays in installing the system, Harris, Dent and a third congressional source say, citing communications between the Appropriations Committee and Amtrak.

"According to Amtrak, PTC was installed in the section of track where the Philly accident occurred," a committee source writes in an email to U.S. News. "There have been delays in 'turning it on' associated with FCC dealings and getting the bandwidth to upgrade the radios from 900 MHz to something higher (for more reliability)."

Amtrak's application for the bandwidth needed to use the positive train control system was approved in "early March," an FCC official says.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: amtrak; philadelphia; ptc; traincrash
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To: Jim Robinson

Where all the federal warning labels installed?


21 posted on 05/15/2015 11:34:32 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: Lizavetta
The real question is why are trains even designed to go over the speed limit in the first place.

??

On the way home I drive a road where the speed limit is 25MPH. If my car weren't capable of going faster than that I'd be in trouble.


22 posted on 05/15/2015 11:35:20 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: blueunicorn6
they called them Engineers

Unfortunately, it may turn out that the Engineer on this "hot mess" may have been busy texting or Emailing amateur Weiner Art, depending on the automatic speed governor to hold the curve.

Should be interesting show trial for whomever should have been watching the Amtrak Boards that night.

23 posted on 05/15/2015 11:36:14 AM PDT by Prospero (Omnis caro fenum)
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To: Jim Robinson
"A computer system that allows speeding trains to be slowed remotely – potentially averting deadly derailments – was installed in the section of track in Philadelphia where Tuesday’s fatal Amtrak crash occurred but had not been turned on, congressional sources tell U.S. News."

Obviously because the Republicans didn't turn it on. /sarc
24 posted on 05/15/2015 11:36:38 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Jim Robinson; Publius; MeganC
Sigh Ping :(

That is Government for you.

25 posted on 05/15/2015 11:38:14 AM PDT by KC_Lion (This Millennial is for Cruz!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Republicans turned it off.
There can be no other explanation.


26 posted on 05/15/2015 11:38:35 AM PDT by Lorianne (fed pork, bailouts, gone taxmoney)
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To: KC_Lion
That is Government for you.

And now, they're running everyone's health care! Yay!

27 posted on 05/15/2015 11:39:11 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Vote GOP for A Slower Handbasket)
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To: Jim Robinson
When your HMO (or trains, mail, etc.) is run like the DMV ... you're SOL!
28 posted on 05/15/2015 11:39:26 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Lizavetta

“The real question is why are trains even designed to go over the speed limit in the first place.”

Well engines are designed with lots of power to adjust to the load they’re pulling. Maybe that’s why?

Everyone should read D-bag Shumer’s comment at the link.

““It is simply a fact that insufficient funding for Amtrak has delayed the installation of PTC, and to deny a connection between the accident and underfunding Amtrak is to deny reality,” said Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., who called claims to the contrary “patently false.”


29 posted on 05/15/2015 11:39:32 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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To: Jim Robinson

More evidence of government competence. No one will be fired (can’t fire the gay engineer; can’t fire the people who did not turn on the automatic speed control) and the taxpayers will foot the payouts and damages.

Civil immunity for government incompetence and negligence needs to be done away with. Make the .gov individual personally liable for all damages, not the innocent taxpayer. For any liability insurance, it comes out of the .gov salary.


30 posted on 05/15/2015 11:39:50 AM PDT by bkopto (Free men are not equal. Equal men are not free.)
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To: cherry

Doesn’t matter what the “official” conclusion is.

This is operator MALFEASANCE, to the point of being criminal in degree.

But again, in this territory once known as “the United States of America”, the law is dead letter and be damned. Nothing will happen to adjudicate the matter or provide redress.


31 posted on 05/15/2015 11:42:06 AM PDT by alloysteel ("Before I refuse to take your questions, I have an opening statement..." Ronald Reagan)
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To: KC_Lion
You do in fact have to test these things, especially when lives are at stake. They weren't ready to go live with it. It's unfortunate.

That brings us back to operator error. The more I read about Mr. Bostian, the less I'm comfortable with him driving a train.

32 posted on 05/15/2015 11:44:14 AM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
It is simply a fact that insufficient funding for Amtrak

Translation: Give more money to my union friends.

33 posted on 05/15/2015 11:44:19 AM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: blueunicorn6
You know, it would probably be helpful to have a person at the front of the train to control it.

Yes, but that would mean that indivdual would have to take personal responsibility for the safe operation of the train.

And since the guy at the controls has been identified as a gay and union activist, he's obviously above any sort of blame.

Nope, lets focus on the Republicans and the lack of automated controls instead of the guy who pushed the speed up over 100 mph in a 50 mph zone.

Yeah, that's the ticket.

34 posted on 05/15/2015 11:44:48 AM PDT by Tigerized (Your Personal Safety is Yours, and Yours Alone. Aim Small, Miss Small.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Wow. But it’s still Bush’s Fault.


35 posted on 05/15/2015 11:47:07 AM PDT by McGruff (What did Hillary know and when did she know it?)
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To: Jim Robinson

Not to worry, Big Brother will protect you.


36 posted on 05/15/2015 11:49:22 AM PDT by TYVets
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To: Tigerized

This time next year the automated controls will be in place, and the train will basically be running on autopilot.

Yet we will still be paying union scale to an engineer to sit in the locomotive.


37 posted on 05/15/2015 11:53:31 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Lizavetta

There are varying speed limits along the rails, just as there are on highways. This train’s rails have up to 70mp limits; at the location of the crash, it was 50mph.

Along the same route there is a speed train (Acela), and new ones coming next year that will allow speed up to 160 mph. That’s not the standard train, obviously.


38 posted on 05/15/2015 11:57:31 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Jim Robinson

Bandwidth kilt ‘em. Yeah. Right.


39 posted on 05/15/2015 12:02:01 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (SEMPER FI!! - Monthly Donors Rock!!)
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To: Steve_Seattle
"A computer system that allows speeding trains to be slowed remotely – potentially averting deadly derailments – was installed in the section of track in Philadelphia where Tuesday’s fatal Amtrak crash occurred but had not been turned on, congressional sources tell U.S. News."

I am sure Mitch McConnell and Ted Cruz personally turned of the working system. /S

40 posted on 05/15/2015 12:02:02 PM PDT by cpdiii (DECKHAND, ROUGHNECK, GEOLOGIST, PILOT, PHARMACIST, LIBERTARIAN The Constitution is worth dying for.)
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