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The British Tories Are Like American Republicans: No One Trusts Them To Be Conservatives
Pajamas Media ^ | 05/09/2015 | Robert Wargas

Posted on 05/09/2015 11:16:35 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Many people seem to think that the results of the British general election—a gain of 24 seats for the Tories, giving them a majority—herald a major win for conservatism. They don’t. They herald a major win for the Conservative Party, but just because it calls itself the Conservative Party doesn’t mean it does conservative things.

Actually, the full official name of that party is the “Conservative and Unionist Party,” and last night was not a win for unionism either. The Scottish National Party, once a marginal outfit known outside Scotland only because Sean Connery supported it, picked up 50 seats last night. They utterly destroyed Scottish Labour, which for years was guaranteed the vote of left-wing Scots. Scotland now continues on its chosen path to become a stridently nationalist, one-party socialist state—a kind of Venezuela on the North Sea.

The Tories, meanwhile, have the same problem the Republicans do: they have ceased to be an effective vehicle for the kind of conservatism most of their constituents want. No one trusts they will accomplish anything significant, especially on issues like immigration and the European Union. As someone who reads and has written for British conservative publications, I am surprised the Tories performed as well as they did, given the outright hostility many average, middle-class conservatives have for the party and its leadership. Read the comments below any article in any right-leaning British periodical and you’ll see what I mean.

The Tories’ coalition partner, the Liberal Democrats, was also destroyed yesterday, losing 49 seats. We’ll see what the Conservatives can accomplish over the next five years, but if change comes to Britain, I doubt it will arise from anything David Cameron does. Rather, the party will remain successful, in purely electoral terms, because of forces outside its control. If Scotland leaves the union, it would be a boon for the Conservative Party—there are Conservative politicians who, despite their party’s manifesto, actually want this. (Well, since Labour has been destroyed north of the border, Scotland has already left the union in the sense that matters for general elections.) This might have the effect of making the Tories even more useless: success can breed arrogance, and arrogance can breed indolence and complacence. The Conservatives would continue to prosper even as they became less conservative, there being no incentive to listen to their constituents. Not that they listen to them now.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: britain; cino; conservatism; davidcameron; edmilibandfans; fino; finos; gaymarriage; labourpartyfans; liberalconservative; liberaldemocratfans; snpfans; tories; uk; uniparty; unitedkingdom

1 posted on 05/09/2015 11:16:35 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Where’s Francis Urhardt when you need him?


2 posted on 05/09/2015 11:20:46 AM PDT by Sister_T (So, ACA is the law of the land? Remember: DADT and DOMA were the laws of the land! Repeal ACA!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Britian is a lost cause too little too late.

If we do not have Cruz in 2016 and a strong conservative congress than any other option will result in too little too late for us as well.

CRUZ or LOSE!


3 posted on 05/09/2015 11:28:11 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: SeekAndFind
I'm beginning to think ... and be a little outspoken about ... we're just plain screwed.

I'm a local government indoctrination board member, and (for example) here in Pa, the state PA Supreme Court ruled last year that opening a school board meeting with prayer is unconstitutional

WHA ??

And when I found this out and questioned it (read ... I tried to get the all male 8 other members to ignore the SC and pray anyway) ... I found every one intimidated because the school could be sued and the defense cost would be enormous and there's no guarentee ... etc., etc.


So, laws are in place already ...
Let me repeat that ...

LAWS ARE IN PLACE ALREADY ...

To prevent Americans from being Americans

THUS;

I believe the Tories and the American Republicans (it no longer matters who, nor when and how ... but rather the fact IS ... ) are neutered into inactivity or feeble activity at best ... because no one wants to pick up a gun and shoot the ones responsable

Perhaps maybe it's because it might be a suicidal event


2 Chronicles 7:14

4 posted on 05/09/2015 11:28:24 AM PDT by knarf (Especially the one from the Philipines I share bed with ....)
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To: Sister_T

I loved the British House of Cards!


5 posted on 05/09/2015 11:29:07 AM PDT by gattaca (Republicans believe every day is July 4, democrats believe every day is April 15. Ronald Reagan)
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To: SeekAndFind
It's a very different country.

If anybody expects any British party to be as conservative as some Americans are, they aren't being very realistic.

6 posted on 05/09/2015 11:34:08 AM PDT by x
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t see this election as a victory for conservatives as much as a defeat for liberals. At least Labor got its stinking communist butt kicked.


7 posted on 05/09/2015 11:38:34 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: knarf
I believe the Tories and the American Republicans (it no longer matters who, nor when and how ... but rather the fact IS ... ) are neutered into inactivity or feeble activity at best ... because no one wants to pick up a gun and shoot the ones responsible.

And perhaps that's what's needed.

8 posted on 05/09/2015 11:43:59 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Sister_T

Ha! Love the original British version!

That’s exactly what my UKIP friends say. Like repubs, they can’t be trusted.


9 posted on 05/09/2015 11:53:01 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: "I should like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: SeekAndFind

If anything good happens it will be because they made good on campaign promises to put continued EU membership to a referendum vote.


10 posted on 05/09/2015 11:57:05 AM PDT by BlackAdderess ("Give me a but a firm spot on which to stand, and I shall move the earth". --Archimedes)
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To: OneWingedShark

That’s why I posted what I posted the way I posted it


11 posted on 05/09/2015 12:12:45 PM PDT by knarf (Especially the one from the Philipines I share bed with ....)
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To: BlackAdderess

Didn’t Cameron promise that the first time he got elected, and then reneged, just like the stinking no-good POS GOP has done on all their worthless promises?


12 posted on 05/09/2015 2:47:17 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
By contrast, I don't trust online self-described conservatives to define conservatism.

13 posted on 05/09/2015 3:17:20 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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from the "2014 predictions" thread, thanks Perdogg:
  1. David Cameron, UK Prime Minister
    • will repair his reputation in 2014
    • will lead the Tories to an outright victory in 2015
    • many will scoff at these particular predictions

14 posted on 05/09/2015 3:18:53 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Oh, and btw, be fruitful and multiply, just not in those words.)
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To: mrsmel

Cameron couldn’t deliver on that promise because he hadn’t gained a majority and had to rely on the Liberal democrats to rule, who would not have any truck with supporting a bill to give Britain a referendum on leaving the EU.

Now it is different, he has a majority, and a mandate and an obligation to provide that referendum and he can’t escape it even if he wants to.


15 posted on 05/09/2015 3:29:37 PM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: SeekAndFind

The Tories Election Manifesto laid out several goals:

Welfare reform, health care reform, old age pension reform, creating new jobs and cutting red tape, government reform, empowering regional and local governments, protecting the environment, increasing quality of education, boosting home ownership, reclaiming powers from the EU and strengthening the UK’s national defence.

All worthy and balanced objectives. Apparently backed by much of the British public.

http://static.guim.co.uk/ni/1429010009028/Conservative-Manifesto-2015.pdf

And the most important thing? Making sure the budget is balanced and the country, in pursuing its goals, lives within its means.


16 posted on 05/09/2015 6:55:56 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

Those are good FISCAL policies.

Now what about SOCIAL policies? Abortion? Same-Sex marriage? Immigration?

What about National Defense?


17 posted on 05/09/2015 7:13:44 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

There is a difference between government helping people to take care of themselves better and government taking care of people for them.

The former is letting people decide what assistance suits them and the latter is having the government decide they’re not mature enough to live their own lives.

In a nutshell, its a vastly different vision of the role government should play. And the role of government should be a reasonable one - from a conservative viewpoint.


18 posted on 05/09/2015 8:04:02 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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