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MSgt. JD Hinton Debunks ‘Jade Helm’ Conspiracy Theories
Lars Larson Show ^ | May 6, 2015 | Lars Larson

Posted on 05/07/2015 8:31:38 AM PDT by Baynative

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To: Crim

I don’t follow Alex Jones. Do you know who Barack Hussein Obama is—he is the CIC. Have you watched the transformation of the military and government? Are you aware that he hates American Patriots and befriends America’s enemies? Yes, distrust is generated when criminals gain power in government.


61 posted on 05/07/2015 9:52:42 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: Turbo Pig

Godwin BINGO!

Thanks that fills my card for the day!

Never mind the fact the vast majority of Germans were on the same page as Hitler.

Here’s a little flashback to 2008:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/14/AR2008121401815.html

Red-State Army?

By Danielle Allen
Monday, December 15, 2008

In Hopewell Township, N.J., the veterans of American Legion Post 339 have put their building up for sale. “Today’s vets don’t come out,” 82-year old Jim Hall told The Times of Trenton last month. The post is down from 425 paying members in the 1960s and ‘70s to 202 this year; only about a dozen regularly attend.

But it’s America that has changed, not vets.

Since 1970, the population of the United States has grown by about 50 percent, from roughly 200 million to 300 million. Over the same period, the number of active-duty armed forces has fallen approximately 50 percent, from 3 million to 1.4 million. A far smaller percentage of the citizenry now serves in the military.

Whereas in 1969 13 percent of Americans were veterans, in 2007 only 8 percent of us were.

Even more important than these general demographic shifts is the change wrought by the end of the draft in 1973. Until then, military service was distributed pretty evenly across regions. But that is no longer true. The residential patterns for current veterans and the patterns of state-level contributions of new recruits to the all-volunteer military have a distinct geographic tilt. And tellingly, the map of military service since 1973 aligns closely with electoral maps distinguishing red from blue states.

In 1969, the 10 states with the highest percentage of veterans were, in order: Wyoming, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, California, Oregon, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Ohio, Connecticut and Illinois.

In 2007, the 10 states with the highest percentage of post-Vietnam-era veterans were, in order: Alaska, Virginia, Hawaii, Washington, Wyoming, Maine, South Carolina, Montana, Maryland and Georgia.

Over the past four decades, which states have disappeared from the top 10? California, New Jersey, Massachusetts and Illinois, all big blue states that have voted Democratic in the past five presidential elections. These states and another blue state, New York, which ranked 12th in 1969, are among the 10 states with the lowest number of post-Vietnam vets per capita. New Jersey comes in 50th of the 50 states; just 1 percent of current residents have served in the military since Vietnam.

Little wonder Jim Hall’s American Legion post is fading away.

This is not simply an issue of people retiring to warm states such as Florida, Georgia and Texas. A 2005 Heritage Foundation analysis of Defense Department and census data on enlistments found that Montana, Alaska, Florida, Wyoming, Maine and Texas send the most young people per capita to the military. The states with the lowest contribution rates? Rhode Island, Massachusetts, Connecticut, New Jersey and New York.

What’s clear from the data is that a major national institution, the U.S. military, now has tighter connections to some regions of the country than others.

And we can’t simply treat the uneven pattern of military service as an insignificant reflection of the cultural differences that characterize different regions of this diverse country. Military institutions across nations and throughout time have always been important creators of culture. They strive to develop unbreakable bonds of solidarity among their members based on shared values, experiences and outlooks. In this country, the military’s leadership role in racial integration has been understood in just this way.

The issue now is not racial integration but cultural separation. If young people from different regions and social backgrounds either enter or steer clear of the armed forces, military service will become, over time, an experience that doesn’t ease but exacerbates preexisting cultural differences. Is the all-volunteer military already having this effect?

I spotted the link between military service and regional partisan divisions when I was researching not military history but Internet political communication. After spending time on political Web sites of the right and left, I noticed that posts on right-leaning sites often employed military lingo — habits of developing monikers and jingles and of using the vocabulary of military tactics and strategy. Left-leaning sites, in contrast, mostly lacked any easily recognizable features of military language.

This is one sign that our public sphere already suffers from a division between military and non-military cultures. The division is not trivial, and without institutional change it is likely to be durable.

During the recent presidential campaign, both Barack Obama and John McCain called for restoring idealism and rededicating citizenship to service. Doing so would require paying attention to the fact that the all-volunteer military has dramatically segmented American experience.

It is time to think seriously about a structure for national service — both military and non-military — that could successfully integrate young people from different regions of the country so that they will come, at least, to understand each other. We need to weave a fabric of shared citizenship anew.


62 posted on 05/07/2015 9:56:03 AM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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To: Neoliberalnot
Military personnel are trained to follow “lawfull orders”. Officers and senior enlisted personnel know the difference. Although, I will keep an eye on them... Lock and Load.
63 posted on 05/07/2015 10:02:23 AM PDT by ThomasPaine2000 (Peace without freedom is tyranny.)
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To: Crim
Godwin BINGO!

It's got nothing to do with Godwin, that's a BS response to a legitimate point.

64 posted on 05/07/2015 10:03:45 AM PDT by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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To: SZonian; Neoliberalnot

Comments of this sort are best dealt with a blend of humor and ridicule, since they do not reflect factual or rational thought. Some days, I’m just not very funny.


65 posted on 05/07/2015 10:03:54 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: Neoliberalnot
I don’t follow Alex Jones.

Yes you do...since Infowars is the original source for this crap.

Do you know who Barack Hussein Obama is—he is the CIC.

Duh...and even he knows that the US military isnt going to to back him on something like rounding up US citizens en mass and placing them in camps or collecting our guns....

What Liberals desire....and what they are capable of...is two vastly different things.

Have you watched the transformation of the military and government?

LOL...what transformation...it's still as screwed up and inefficiant as ever...

Are you aware that he hates American Patriots and befriends America’s enemies?

Again....duh....why do you feel the need to state the obvious when it still doesnt support your argument.

Yes, distrust is generated when criminals gain power in government.

Vigilance is fine....wild speculation, conspircy theories, and paranoia are just stupid.

66 posted on 05/07/2015 10:06:27 AM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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To: centurion316

Crim seems to think I am the enemy. I don’t get it. And then, he cites an article from one of the most liberal tabloids on the planet—the WaPo. I am actually a bit confounded by his thinking here. He ignores the fact that BHO is the CIC; again, I don’t get that either.


67 posted on 05/07/2015 10:08:02 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: Paladin2

“We’ve been doing this for the last 50+ years”

Wrong, wrong and wrong. Never has the military “trained” to fight agains’t its own people. Never has the military labeled states as belligerent and the enemy as sovereign citizens. This so called “training” for 2 plus months is more like an occupation. These guys must think we are all as stupid as the Taliban.


68 posted on 05/07/2015 10:10:38 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Turbo Pig

Hey you brought up the Nazi’s...not me.

You want to cherry pick history in order to support your argument...and you tried to use a European population to do it...

Try the battle of Athens Tenn. instead...happed right here in America after the war.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Athens_(1946)

BTW...the corrupt political machine was run by Democrats.

That story should give you the warm fuzzies.


69 posted on 05/07/2015 10:13:01 AM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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To: Crim

Yup.

Sure, it very well may be just another round of large-scale training/practice.
But...given the current administration seems keen on destabilizing the country (10-digit illegal immigration condoned/encouraged, stoking race riots, dismissing categorical terrorism as “workplace violence” et al), ya just gotta ask “why THIS training, NOW?” ...and there really isn’t a good answer, as there isn’t any location or situation where Jade Helm training/practice really applies...except...


70 posted on 05/07/2015 10:14:35 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Hillary:polarizing/calculating/disingenuous/insincere/ambitious/inevitable/entitled/overconfident/se)
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To: Crim

FYI we the taxpayers spent 96 million bucks to build a modern city on one of our military bases. They can dang well train there.

Listening to these talking heads they send out telling us how the Special Forces will go into cities to “blend in” is insane on its face. They blend in naturally because duh they are Americans. Its surreal!

Maybe you need a shrink.


71 posted on 05/07/2015 10:15:03 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Neoliberalnot

I can read ya know.....and I never called you the “enemy”...I called you mental.

Alex Jones and Inforwars is the original source for the Jade Helm scare mongering.

The WA-PO article (if you bothered to read it...which I doubt) is liberal handwringing over the fact that our military is overwelmingly CONSERVATIVE FROM RED STATES!

That’s why liberals want to bring back the draft...so they can reshape the demographics more to their liking...

Liberals dont join to serve...they join for the schooling and benefits....then cry or desert when they have to go into harms way.


72 posted on 05/07/2015 10:19:47 AM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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To: Crim

So, you profess to know what BHO thinks—now that is a good one. You seem to be short-changing the ability of liberals to accomplish anything—I ask who is BHO and how did he get there? Who is the attorney general? How many muslims have been appointed to the executive branch? How blind can you be? I think you tend to underestimate the enemy —you seem to have no historical perspective. What would it take to wake you up, another 911 or worse? The vulture of islam sits in the highest office in the land. He has power over you and me. He is the CIC. He is dividing the country against itself. Amnesty is coming for 15 million criminal aliens.


73 posted on 05/07/2015 10:20:35 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

74 posted on 05/07/2015 10:23:10 AM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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To: Neoliberalnot
So, you profess to know what BHO thinks—now that is a good one. You seem to be short-changing the ability of liberals to accomplish anything—I ask who is BHO and how did he get there? Who is the attorney general? How many muslims have been appointed to the executive branch? How blind can you be? I think you tend to underestimate the enemy —you seem to have no historical perspective. What would it take to wake you up, another 911 or worse? The vulture of islam sits in the highest office in the land. He has power over you and me. He is the CIC. He is dividing the country against itself. Amnesty is coming for 15 million criminal aliens.

And WTF does ANY of that have to do with Jade Helm???? Is our entire military going to convert to Islam or something? Seriously...get a grip.

75 posted on 05/07/2015 10:28:21 AM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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To: Baynative

If it’s called “Jade Helm 15,” then does this imply that there were Jade Helms 1-14 which all went off without the imposition of martial law?


76 posted on 05/07/2015 10:28:42 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (It's time to repeal and replace the GOP)
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To: mad_as_he$$
The Chris Kyle's in the military are fewer and fewer. Gangbangers and misfits are becoming more and more.

That's 100% correct. Under the illegal hussein regime, the military now has a large percentage of sodomites, illegals, ghetto thugs and mooselimbs. It's no longer the fearsome fighting force for Good that it was during the era of President Ronald Reagan. The White Mosque has utterly destroyed what President Reagan did. And since hussein is the CIC, any activity by today's military must be viewed with skepticism.

77 posted on 05/07/2015 10:29:21 AM PDT by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: Crim

Nice selfie. LOL!


78 posted on 05/07/2015 10:30:42 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: re_nortex

“The Chris Kyle’s in the military are fewer and fewer”

I’m not worried about the Chris Kyles. But like you I’m worried. Worried about the replacements of all the generals and the hundreds and hundreds of officers at the captain level that are gone.


79 posted on 05/07/2015 10:35:43 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

No.


80 posted on 05/07/2015 10:35:57 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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