Posted on 05/07/2015 8:31:38 AM PDT by Baynative
An interview from Lars Larson concerning the Jade Helm conspiracy worries.
(Excerpt) Read more at larslarson.com ...
Yep.
Paid trolls?
WTF?
How about you name em.
Point out the paid trolls here travis.
And you never said where you got your meme pic...it certainly wasnt from Jade helm...as it hasnt happened yet.
The answer is no....they arent claiming that.....they are saying it looks bad.
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Rep. Louie Gohmert (TX-01) released the following statement on the ‘Jade Helm 15’ exercises scheduled to take place in Texas and various other states:
“Over the past few weeks, my office has been inundated with calls referring to the Jade Helm 15 military exercise scheduled to take place between July 15 and September 15, 2015. This military practice has some concerned that the U.S. Army is preparing for modern-day martial law.
Certainly, I can understand these concerns. When leaders within the current administration believe that major threats to the country include those who support the Constitution, are military veterans, or even ‘cling to guns or religion,’ patriotic Americans have reason to be concerned. We have seen people working in this administration use their government positions to persecute people with conservative beliefs in God, country, and notions such as honor and self-reliance. Because of the contempt and antipathy for the true patriots or even Christian saints persecuted for their Christian beliefs, it is no surprise that those who have experienced or noticed such persecution are legitimately suspicious.
Having served in the U.S. Army, I can understand why military officials have a goal to see if groups of Special Forces can move around a civilian population without being noticed and can handle various threat scenarios. In military science classes or in my years on active duty, I have participated in or observed military exercises; however, we never named an existing city or state as a “hostile.” We would use fictitious names before we would do such a thing.
Once I observed the map depicting ‘hostile,’ ‘permissive,’ and ‘uncertain’ states and locations, I was rather appalled that the hostile areas amazingly have a Republican majority, ‘cling to their guns and religion,’ and believe in the sanctity of the United States Constitution. When the federal government begins, even in practice, games or exercises, to consider any U.S. city or state in 'hostile' control and trying to retake it, the message becomes extremely calloused and suspicious.
Such labeling tends to make people who have grown leery of federal government overreach become suspicious of whether their big brother government anticipates certain states may start another civil war or be overtaken by foreign radical Islamist elements which have been reported to be just across our border. Such labeling by a government that is normally not allowed to use military force against its own citizens is an affront to the residents of that particular state considered as 'hostile,' as if the government is trying to provoke a fight with them. The map of the exercise needs to change, the names on the map need to change, and the tone of the exercise needs to be completely revamped so the federal government is not intentionally practicing war against its own states.”
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"My office has reached out to the Pentagon to inquire about this exercise," Cruz, a Texas senator, told Bloomberg at the South Carolina Republican Party's annual convention. "We are assured it is a military training exercise. I have no reason to doubt those assurances, but I understand the reason for concern and uncertainty, because when the federal government has not demonstrated itself to be trustworthy in this administration, the natural consequence is that many citizens don't trust what it is saying."
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Gov. Greg Abbott said Monday that all the to-do, in Texas and across the country, about his directive last week to the Texas State Guard to monitor Jade Helm 15, a U.S. Special Operations exercise that will be held in Texas and other Southwestern states for eight weeks this summer, was overwrought and misdirected.
All he was doing, Abbott said, was working to gather and disseminate information to allay the unfounded concerns of more than a few Texans.
Abbott made the comments following Monday morning’s Texas State Prayer Breakfast in Austin.
His order stirred criticism because, critics maintained, it lent credence to rumors and fears that Jade Helm might actually be the prelude to martial law, concerns that spilled over at a public meeting of the Bastrop County Commissioners Court the day before Abbott issued his directive.
Former Republican state Rep. Todd Smith, R-Euless, sent Abbott a letter bemoaning his “pandering to idiots.”
But Abbott said those critics got the purpose of his directive backward.
“Listen, what’s going on here is really very simple,” Abbott told reporters. “What we’re doing is serving as a communication facilitator between the Special Operations Forces and the people of the state of Texas and nothing more than that.
“We are playing a pivotal role of government, and that is to provide information for people who have questions,” Abbott said. “It is clear that people in Bastrop had questions, it’s clear from the questions I have received in my office that people have questions about it, and as governor and as government, I think we have an obligation to answer questions of citizens. And, by us working with the Special Operations Forces, we are able to provide information to citizens who were concerned about it.
“I’ve seen nothing to worry about what’s going on,” Abbott continued. “We have been provided assurance by the Special Operations Forces that there is nothing for the public to worry about. This is consistent with past operations. Texas has a long tradition of supporting our troops, and I don’t think this will be any different.”
“We’ve talked to the leaders of the Special Operations as well as the county judge in Bastrop County; they’re both thankful and grateful and appreciative of what we did and they applaud what we did,” Abbott said.
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So there you have it.....None of the three have said it's an evil Obama plot to disarm Americans or install martial law.
Is Abbot lying?...is Cruz Lying?
Indeed it does DR. I know a substantial number of retired officers and enlisted men. I still work with several including one of my best friends, a retired light Col. Like me, they are concerned about today’s soldier and the orders they will comply with. Crime seems lost in emotion.
This is what you don’t get—I have heard of Alex but maybe once more than a year ago. My concern comes from mostly retired military personnel that I have daily contact with.
Yeah, Hassan should have had his neck stretched years ago for the mass murder of unarmed innocents.
“Please understand that paid trolls are suddenly crawling around the web as part of the entire picture. Just look at posting history etc.”
Posting history is the easiest .
bfl
http://www.fayettevillenc.com/obj_stories/2002/feb/m24shoot.shtml
Sunday, February 24, 2002
Soldiers shot in Moore
By Arthur McLean
Staff writer
ROBBINS -- One Fort Bragg soldier was killed and another was seriously injured Saturday in a shooting that involved a Moore County sheriff’s deputy, according to the Sheriff’s Department.
The soldiers were taking part in Robin Sage, the culminating field exercise of the Special Forces Qualification Course, according to the Sheriff’s Department. The names of the soldiers were not released.
The soldiers were in a vehicle that had been stopped by Deputy Randall Butler about 2:30 p.m. on Acorn Ridge Road, about one-half mile from N.C. 705, the Sheriff’s Department said. Acorn Ridge Road runs northeast from N.C. 705 about one mile northwest of Robbins in northern Moore County.
Two residents on Acorn Ridge Road said they heard shots but did not see what happened.
The soldiers were in a vehicle driven by a civilian who was playing the role of a resident of a fictitious country in which Robin Sage takes place, said Maj. Richard Patterson of the John F. Kennedy Special Warfare Center and School on Fort Bragg.
The soldiers were carrying weapons, but Patterson said he did not know what kind. Soldiers do not carry live ammunition during Robin Sage, he said.
Patterson said he did not know if the soldiers were wearing uniforms.
The shooting is being investigated by the State Bureau of Investigation, with the help of the Army Criminal Investigation Division, the Sheriff’s Department and the Army Special Operations Command.
Randy Myers, a criminal specialist with the SBI, said he would not comment on why Butler stopped the vehicle or why he drew his weapon.
Butler has been placed on administrative leave with pay.
The wounded soldier was being treated at FirstHealth Moore Regional Hospital in Pinehurst on Saturday night and was listed in serious condition, according to the Sheriff’s Department.
No charges have been filed.
Robin Sage is the 19-day final exam of the Special Forces Qualification Course. It tests skills in survival, tactics and dealing with people, as well as judgment, decision-making and ethics. It is the largest unconventional warfare training exercise in the world.
Special Forces soldiers have been training in Robin Sage, or its predecessors, for more than 40 years. It is staged four times a year throughout nine counties in central North Carolina
In previous Robin Sage sessions, law enforcement officials have helped the military by setting up roadblocks during some missions. Civilians have also played a role, volunteering to act as guerrillas.
Patterson said soldiers must negotiate and develop a rapport with residents of the fictitious country “Pineland,” where the exercise takes place.
Staff writer Arthur McLean can be reached at (910) 692-5185 or at mcleana@fayettevillenc.com
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Gunner, co-ax; dismount troops in the open. Loader, load beehive.
Fire! Hose 'em!
Anyone, in police or military uniform or not, who fires on unarmed American citizens, is an active threat and a target to be engaged.
My duty is to the U.S. Constitution, against all enemies, foreign and domestic. Those who would attempt to assume powers not authorized to them under that constitution, or who would deprive their fellow Americans of their rights under that constitution, are the enemy.
I, archy von Panzer having been appointed an officer in the Army of the United States, as indicated above in the grade of Major do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservations or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter; So help me God."
(DA Form 71, 1 August 1959, for officers.)
I concur.
In Ohio? Say, isn't that the state where the Ohio National Guard fired 67 rounds at unarmed student demonstrators and killed four, thinking the students pasing by during a class change were a *human wave attack*. And then it turned out they'd killed the ROTC student battalion commander and wounded a Vietnam veteran attending school on the GI Bill, among others.
The NG folks I work with are particularly concerned that they're losing their Apache gunships to the Regular Army force structure, and that their gunship units are being *transformed* into Blackhawk-equipped troop carriers. Combined with the probable forthcoming loss of Air Force A10 ground support assets, the Guard and Reserve units will become meaty speed bumps should they have to go up against anything larger than a company-sized armor adversary- even one equipped with obsolete or obsolescent armored vehicles.
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