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To: Secret Agent Man
You really think that’s the kind of “dealer” I have in mind here?

First off, you didn't make any qualifications as to what sorts of drugs.
Second, the definitions of drug and dealing will be expanded to increase governmental power… I can easily imagine bibles being considered opiate for the masses and even giving them away free considered dealing.

The reason that there's a presumption of innocence, the reason that there's a fourth, fifth, sixth, and eighth amendment is precisely because these sorts of abuses are a temptation to governments and their agents.

34 posted on 05/03/2015 10:17:10 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Really pretty simple solution to this.

Get arrested dealing drugs, you get full due process of the law. No bail, you are remanded to custody. And if you are found guilty it is an automatic 20 years. Could be for 1 joint or 1 kilo. Doesn’t matter.

If when caught there is a weapon, add 10 years.

Think that will end the drug problem pretty quickly. Stop going after the users. They want to kill themselves, so be it.


36 posted on 05/03/2015 10:38:14 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (two if by van, one if by broom)
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To: OneWingedShark

It’s fun to bring up things the other person didn’t mention to then go and argue against the things that were never brought up by the person you want to aruge with.

I think it’s very clear. Hard core drug dealers. that are well known to law enforcement and probably most of the community they prey in. I doubt my clarification makes any difference to you anyway, so I wonder why you bring it up other than to attempt to denigrate.

As for your SPECULATION, it’s just that. You are the only one who’s equated books with drugs and then gone off to argue about that. Not me. You can keep arguing with yourself on that point.

Drug dealers are cancer on society. They destroy the very people they sell to and do not give two sh1ts about them. They don’t deal drugs because it’s a “freedom” thing. They do it for the effing money and everything else can go to hell. They are parasites. They are vermin. They sell stuff that they know is terrible for people and often add in crap to make it worse. They care nothing about their users. They care nothing about the families it harms. They care nothing about the costs to society that could be spent elsewhere that are directly and indirectly used up because of the tangible negative effects drugs have - at the individual level, family level, and community level.

They are scum. You know exactly the kind of person I ma describing. It’s not a vague broad definition. It’s a very specific definition, it’s the picture you picture in your head when you think of “hard core drug dealers”.

Don’t play the fool and don’t play me for a fool.


38 posted on 05/03/2015 10:53:35 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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