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What to Say When the Police Tell You to Stop Filming Them
The Atlantic via Yahoo! ^ | 4/28/15 | Robinson Meyer

Posted on 04/28/2015 9:41:55 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows

First of all, they shouldn’t ask.

“As a basic principle, we can’t tell you to stop recording,” says Delroy Burton, chairman of D.C.’s metropolitan police union and a 21-year veteran on the force. “If you’re standing across the street videotaping, and I’m in a public place, carrying out my public functions, [then] I’m subject to recording, and there’s nothing legally the police officer can do to stop you from recording.”

“What you don’t have a right to do is interfere,” he says. “Record from a distance, stay out of the scene, and the officer doesn’t have the right to come over and take your camera, confiscate it.”

Officers do have a right to tell you to stop interfering with their work, Burton told me, but they still aren’t allowed to destroy film.

Yet still some officers do. Last week, an amateur video appeared to show a U.S. Marshal confiscating and destroying a woman’s camera as she filmed him.

“Photography is a form of power, and people are loath to give up power, including police officers. It’s a power struggle where the citizen is protected by the law but, because it is a power struggle, sometimes that’s not enough,” says Jay Stanley, a senior policy analyst at the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU).

Stanley wrote the ACLU’s “Know Your Rights” guide for photographers, which lays out in plain language the legal protections that are assured people filming in public. Among these: Photographers can take pictures of anything in plain view from public space—including public officials—but private land owners may set rules for photography on their property. Cops also can’t “confiscate or demand to view” audio or video without a warrant, and they can’t ever delete images.

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1 posted on 04/28/2015 9:41:55 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows
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To: null and void

Ping!


2 posted on 04/28/2015 9:42:12 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("Demonicide" - http://youtu.be/FgUWow7WT2Y | Facebook ID: Hopalong Q Ginsberg)
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To: Slings and Arrows
Tell them you're part of the camera crew for COPS?


3 posted on 04/28/2015 9:49:32 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Slings and Arrows

“As a basic principle, we can’t tell you to stop recording,” says Delroy Burton, chairman of D.C.’s metropolitan police union and a 21-year veteran on the force. “If you’re standing across the street videotaping, and I’m in a public place, carrying out my public functions, [then] I’m subject to recording, and there’s nothing legally the police officer can do to stop you from recording.”

Good let me know when these police officers are prosecuted for Strong Armed Robbery ( A Felony)
Grand Theft(over $400 is a FELONY)cellphones cost is over $400
Using a Firearm during the Commission of a Violent Felony

Then we can talk.


4 posted on 04/28/2015 9:50:41 AM PDT by eyeamok
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Works better if the perp is shirtless.


5 posted on 04/28/2015 9:50:45 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("Demonicide" - http://youtu.be/FgUWow7WT2Y | Facebook ID: Hopalong Q Ginsberg)
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To: Slings and Arrows

But ...

That may be a GUN, disguised as a camera.

Or ...

You now have EVIDENCE. Turn it over to me, or face charges for withholding evidence.


6 posted on 04/28/2015 9:50:51 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob (an icon of resistance within the oppressed patriots, who represent resilience in the face of SSV)
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To: Slings and Arrows
1. Travel in pairs so one can surreptitiously film (film, what is that?) the other being hassled or having a camera destroyed.

2. Send pictures or video to another location as quickly (or even instantly if possible) as you can so that they aren't destroyed if the camera is. It's also good if you can get live video of Officer Friendly grabbing your camera and stomping on it with the video ending with his heel coming down on the camera.

7 posted on 04/28/2015 9:51:11 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Darth Obama on 529 plans: I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further.)
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To: eyeamok

Just FYI, there are cellphone apps that continuously upload video to a safe site, so that even if the camera is stolen or destroyed the video is retained.

I do agree, though, that the police rarely police the police.


8 posted on 04/28/2015 9:52:43 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("Demonicide" - http://youtu.be/FgUWow7WT2Y | Facebook ID: Hopalong Q Ginsberg)
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To: Scrambler Bob

Please see posts #7 and #8.


9 posted on 04/28/2015 9:53:16 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("Demonicide" - http://youtu.be/FgUWow7WT2Y | Facebook ID: Hopalong Q Ginsberg)
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To: Slings and Arrows

I know some LEOs and people in said community. The problem usually arises in uh, urban, areas where two or three cops are struggling with one or two suspects and the whole neighborhood shows up screaming at them and crowing around them. Stay back and don’t yell at them and it shouldn’t be a problem.


10 posted on 04/28/2015 9:53:45 AM PDT by matt04
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To: Slings and Arrows

Add this one: the best way to record police is with a wing-man who is also recording them, so if one of them tries to take away or destroy a camera/phone he will be recorded doing it.

So far we haven’t heard anything of the ‘investigation’ of the Federal Marshall to jumped the woman filming him and destroying her cam phone.

Clearly this is an abuse of power.


11 posted on 04/28/2015 9:55:44 AM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: Slings and Arrows

I do agree, though, that the police rarely police the police.

And there is the reason and answer to Baltimore, Ferguson....


12 posted on 04/28/2015 9:56:31 AM PDT by eyeamok
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To: sickoflibs

Clearly this is an abuse of power.”???

NO It is a FELONY, got it.


13 posted on 04/28/2015 9:58:25 AM PDT by eyeamok
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To: Slings and Arrows

a Yankees cap with the N and the Y pre-blurred would help...


14 posted on 04/28/2015 10:00:36 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: sickoflibs

Agreed on all counts.


15 posted on 04/28/2015 10:11:42 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("Demonicide" - http://youtu.be/FgUWow7WT2Y | Facebook ID: Hopalong Q Ginsberg)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

*grin*


16 posted on 04/28/2015 10:12:23 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("Demonicide" - http://youtu.be/FgUWow7WT2Y | Facebook ID: Hopalong Q Ginsberg)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

There you go! Start singing “Bad boys, bad boys, what ya gonna do?” and the cops will probably pose for you.


17 posted on 04/28/2015 10:12:42 AM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Anything in plain view, as long as you don’t interfere with their work is ok. Distribution, however may be tricky. Best to blur faces if you have the technology, but don’t blur it on the original. Preserve that for evidentiary purposes.


18 posted on 04/28/2015 10:14:50 AM PDT by Regal
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To: Slings and Arrows

One time I intimidated an abortionist by holding up my garage door opener pretending to be filming her. She bought it and called the cops on me. The cop laughed out loud when I showed him my “camera.”


19 posted on 04/28/2015 10:18:12 AM PDT by Slyfox (If I'm ever accused of being a Christian, I'd like there to be enough evidence to convict me)
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To: Slings and Arrows

In a public place anyone can photograph anything they want...just stay out of the way...

Sounds right to me.


20 posted on 04/28/2015 10:19:26 AM PDT by GOPJ (The thugs loot stores. The community leaders loot cities. - Daniel Greenfield)
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