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Most Britons have no idea about Waterloo
The Local (France) ^ | 20 Apr 2015 08:51 GMT+02:00

Posted on 04/25/2015 9:39:10 AM PDT by DeaconBenjamin

With the 200th anniversary of the famous Battle of Waterloo just two months away a survey in Britain has revealed that most ofthe public know little about it and some even think it's just an Abba song, while many thought the French actually won.

A survey of Britons published in the build-up to the 200th anniversary of the Battle of Waterloo found three-quarters knew little or nothing about it -- while many thought France won.

The poll of 2,070 people for the National Army Museum found 73 percent either knew nothing or next to nothing about the battle, one of the most important in the nation's history.

When asked what came to mind when Waterloo was mentioned, 54 percent of people aged 18 to 24 said the London railway station named after the battle, while 46 percent cited the Eurovision-winning song by Swedish pop group ABBA.

The Battle of Waterloo, fought outside Brussels in 1815, saw the Duke of Wellington lead the British and allied forces to a final, decisive victory over French emperor Napoleon Bonaparte.

But the survey found only 53 percent knew Wellington commanded the British troops.

The other 47 percent thought it could have been 16th-century navigator Francis Drake, Britain's World War II prime minister Winston Churchill, King Arthur, who ruled in the fifth century, and even the wizard Albus Dumbledore from the "Harry Potter" books.

Fourteen percent thought Napoleon actually won.

"Despite the Battle of Waterloo being an iconic moment in British history, UK public awareness is dramatically low," said Janice Murray, director-general of the National Army Museum.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: 1815; 18150618; gebhardvonblucher; historyeducation; militaryhistory; napoleon; unitedkingdom; waterloo; worldhistory
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To: TurboZamboni

The Swedes got Norway, because of it.


41 posted on 04/25/2015 11:08:13 AM PDT by Boiler Plate ("Why be difficult, when with just a little more work, you can be impossible" Mom)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

It all started in the 60s with the chants of “Hey Hey Ho Ho Western Civ Has Got to Go.” Learning about history got slammed as only learning “White History”.


42 posted on 04/25/2015 11:11:00 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: kearnyirish2
WWII will disappear because not only was the military segregated, but blacks weren’t used as combat troops. Not that some didn’t end up in combat; they simply weren’t assigned to combat units, but instead to support roles.

The only things they'll teach about WWII are, that the Soviet Union defeated Hitler single-handedly, and that the US was evil for dropping the Atom Bomb.

43 posted on 04/25/2015 11:12:19 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Vendome

44 posted on 04/25/2015 11:13:05 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: DeaconBenjamin

The good and the bad of English history is that there is so much of it and it is all very well documented.


45 posted on 04/25/2015 11:15:42 AM PDT by Boiler Plate ("Why be difficult, when with just a little more work, you can be impossible" Mom)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

46 posted on 04/25/2015 11:16:51 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: DeaconBenjamin
"Most Britons have no idea about Waterloo"

Well the disco era is a bit incomprehensible...

I guess you had to be there...

47 posted on 04/25/2015 11:19:38 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: kearnyirish2
My wife teaches at a high school in an affluent suburb of Washington D.C., which nevertheless has a high percentage of blacks and Hispanics. Last week she was teaching a lesson on the Holocaust, and she talked about the concentration camps and the Gestapo. One of the students raised his hand and asked "Did all that really happen?" He was completely sincere. A bit astonished, my wife said 'Well, yes, of course", at which point she said a murmur that went through the class as they looked at each other, equally astonished. She told me she doesn't think they really believed her.

I'm not sure where youth has its attention fixed these days, but my take on this is that Ancient Aliens and Bigfoot are probably taken as more real than the history we learned growing up.

48 posted on 04/25/2015 11:31:32 AM PDT by PUGACHEV
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To: dfwgator

Wait.

They hit Chickamauga too?

LOL


49 posted on 04/25/2015 11:36:03 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: KC_Lion; DeaconBenjamin; UKrepublican; RushIsMyTeddyBear
Not buying this...Everyone knows it is a Railway station on the Southern Region! :)


50 posted on 04/25/2015 11:39:09 AM PDT by moose07 (Islam and the New Stone age: A book i've not yet written.)
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To: hanamizu

You bring up a good point. I’m something of a military history buff, although leaning more towards the technology aspect. I could name off important Civil War battles and Generals, but to put them in logical sequence and levels of importance? Nope.

WWII however, I could really get in depth. I had many relatives that served. I picked their brains about their experiences, and they were shocked that a person my age knew so much about that time. My Wife’s Grandfather was a Corsair pilot in the Pacific. He was stunned at how much I knew when we met.

Waterloo though? That’s like Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Brits should at least know the results of that battle, if not the minute details... Just as Americans should know the results of Gettysburg.


51 posted on 04/25/2015 11:47:09 AM PDT by Tailback
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To: max americana
Ironic that a Corsican pretending to be French would end up a hero there.

Hitler was an Austrian pretending to be German.

Stalin was a Georgian pretending to be Russian.

And Obama is a Kenyan pretending to be an American.

52 posted on 04/25/2015 11:55:14 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: BenLurkin

My ancestors were Prussian, already here in America for a century when Field Marshal Blucher kicked Napoleon’s tuckus and saved Wellington’s as well.

Blucher had the gout, then a dose of the piles, got drunk, read the map wrong and lead a calvary charge straight into Napoleon’s flank. The krauts creamed the frog’s butts while Wellington regrouped his retreating forces.

Sad but all true

caddis the elder


53 posted on 04/25/2015 11:56:23 AM PDT by palmerizedCaddis (I'm not sure if Obama is worse than Carter, just that Barry is a lot dumber.)
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To: palmerizedCaddis

54 posted on 04/25/2015 11:58:15 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: dfwgator
Hitler was an Austrian pretending to be German.

Stalin was a Georgian pretending to be Russian.

And Obama is a Kenyan pretending to be an American.

A fine collection of Three A-holes Pretending to be Human...

55 posted on 04/25/2015 11:58:50 AM PDT by moose07 (Islam and the New Stone age: A book i've not yet written.)
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To: palmerizedCaddis

I saw a movie about Waterloo. They showed Blucher charging on horseback and calling his soldiers “my children”.


56 posted on 04/25/2015 12:03:17 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: Tailback

Nagasaki. Brits should at least know the results of that battle, if not the minute details... Just as Americans should know the results of Gettysburg.


I agree that they should—but I kind of get why they don’t. Who, today, gets worked up over Napoleon anymore? For at least a hundred years craziness was often manifested by the sufferer’s belief that he was Napoleon. By today’s psychiatric standards, such beliefs would be considered another form of normal and deniers would be mocked and sued.

The Civil War will be always taught, at least a little, because of its link to the end of slavery. WWII? The Holocaust Deniers may win over time. The Japanese atrocities are pretty much already down the memory hole, so that war may also get short shrift.

As an aside, I find the battles of Midway and Gettysburg similar in that they both so complex, with so many heroes and battles within the battles, that I have a hard time wrapping my mind around the complexity of them.


57 posted on 04/25/2015 12:03:38 PM PDT by hanamizu
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To: chajin

I see what you did there...


58 posted on 04/25/2015 12:11:00 PM PDT by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

59 posted on 04/25/2015 12:15:48 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: DeaconBenjamin

One consequence of the widespread ignorance of our own, let alone each others’ histories by both Britons and Americans is that many Americans assume that the Revolutionary War (known in Britain as the War of American Independence) was as significant an event in British history as it self-evidently was in American history. Whereas for the British that war, important as it was, was just one in a century of wars, soon to be overwhelmed in scale and significance - militarily, economically and politically, by the Napoleonic Wars.


60 posted on 04/25/2015 12:16:12 PM PDT by Winniesboy
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