Posted on 04/25/2015 2:25:58 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
"..........Mr. Walker’s apparent hardening on immigration has inspired a flood of reporting and commentary. Most recently he told the radio host Glenn Beck that he favored restricting legal immigration in tough economic times, a position to the right of most other 2016 presidential hopefuls.
He repeated that view Friday after a speech in Cedar Rapids, when Eddie Failor, 24, expressed concern “as a young Republican” that the party must make inroads to new voter blocs, including by supporting a comprehensive overhaul of immigration.
Mr. Walker told Mr. Failor that his top priority would be securing the border. He also said he favored “making sure the legal immigration system is based on making our No. 1 priority to protect American workers and their wages.’’
Alexander Staudt, the treasurer of the University of Iowa College Republicans, also told Mr. Walker in the meet-and-greet line that he was concerned that by talking tough on immigration, Republican candidates would turn off Hispanics.
“In terms of how wide or how narrow the door’s open, our No. 1 priority is American workers and American wages,’’ Mr. Walker told him. “I don’t know how anyone can argue against that.’’...........
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>>The worse our trade situation gets however, the more I an now leaning toward requiring things sold in America, to be made in America.<<
What the heck, while you’re improving America with that idea, why not improve your own state even faster by requiring things sold in your own state be made in your own state. And then there’s your city....the sky’s the limit if you’d apply the same logic to your own city!
Or you could delve into some basic economics textbooks for a bit to see why all of those are not really great ideas....
>>At the same time, in electoral vote terms, this is the policy plank that could win the GOP a broad swathe of the Midwestern blue collar vote,....<<
I realize you’re addressing the issue of the electoral votes, but I think this is the policy plank that could win over a lot of Independents and disaffected Democrats who’ve also become discouraged by the flood of illegals into this country, and who also think American wages are being depressed by that very flood.
In one stroke, Governor Walker has shown the GOP an effective in-road into some traditional Democrat constituencies, including even legal immigrants, union members, and blacks if he handles the next steps well. After all, each of those groups face the same downward pressure on wages that extensive illegal immigration causes. If he, in conjunction with this, tries to convince black families that they are better off with jobs paying higher wages than being trapped in a vicious welfare cycle, who knows, maybe there’s even hope there?
Beats beating Hillary up on a daily basis at any rate....
>>Alexander Staudt, the treasurer of the University of Iowa College Republicans, also told Mr. Walker in the meet-and-greet line that he was concerned that by talking tough on immigration, Republican candidates would turn off Hispanics.<<
I honestly don’t think you’re ever really going to hear Walker say something akin to “Send them all packing, now!” ever. That’s not the sort of person he is. Besides, that’s the sort of language that does indeed lose the Hispanic vote. Note that the “Hispanic vote,” in normal times (which these are not) is the vote of Hispanic American citizens, citizens who also have every reason to want the wages they work for to be protected from a flood of illegals, regardless the country they’re coming in from.
Again, Walker’s move to reframe the immigration discussion in terms of showing concern for the level of American wages could make some serious inroads into the Hispanic vote. It would be politically foolish of him to sound like he’s in any way berating Hispanics, even those here illegally today. And Walker is no fool when it comes to politics. Quite the opposite, in fact.
He was an IBM salesman before becoming a pol. I expect he understands that certain words and topics are minefields. Having wandered into the minefield of legal immigration, I expect he has war gamed every word and expression, including punctuation, that he might introduce into this discussion.I honestly don’t think you’re ever really going to hear Walker say something akin to “Send them all packing, now!” ever. That’s not the sort of person he is. Besides, that’s the sort of language that does indeed lose the Hispanic vote. Note that the “Hispanic vote,” in normal times (which these are not) is the vote of Hispanic American citizens, citizens who also have every reason to want the wages they work for to be protected from a flood of illegals, regardless the country they’re coming in from.
Again, Walker’s move to reframe the immigration discussion in terms of showing concern for the level of American wages could make some serious inroads into the Hispanic vote. It would be politically foolish of him to sound like he’s in any way berating Hispanics, even those here illegally today. And Walker is no fool when it comes to politics. Quite the opposite, in fact.
The part that makes it better for our country is the part you left out, I'm sure by oversight (grin!). That's this, they have to apply for immigration just like anyone else and get approved before they return.
I'm sure nearly all Freepers agree with that policy, what many don't believe, or are wary of, is that he doesn't mean it.
[That refusal should alarm every prospective Republican voter]
The 48 republican US Senator rinos who support gay marriage alarm me all to hell! We conservatives gave them seats in Congress where they ally with the communist democrat party. To hell with them all.
[ Bring back American manufacturing.]
Vote tea party conservatives and damn to the liberal GOP which is as leftist as the democrat communist congress animals.
[I prefer Ted Cruz. I’ll accept Scott Walker. I’ll never vote for Christy, Bush or any other liberal regardless of party affiliation.]
Agreed. The whole political establishment is liberal except for a very few like Ted Cruz and Scott Walker. I believe we need a conservative third party to replace the now worthless GOP with Conservatives who hold to conservatism. We are no longer represented by the two worthless political parties nowdays.
There’s absolutely nothing in this “return to get in line” policy that says anything about their having to stay home. He’s not for deporting them.
I posted that part to you in post 55.
No, that just means their citizenship wouldn’t be on a special fast track ahead of if they had applied for it without being illegals. That’s his idea of no “amnesty”.
The immigrants must flow. The uniparty has decreed it, and no political candidate who wants to have any chance at all is going to buck that.
If immigration is your sole issue of concern, then prepare for disappointment.
I agree with pretty much all you said. Yet, there are those who are using immigration as their litmus test and seem to be gearing up to help the Dems in their quest for retaining the WH - they seem to think there is a potential for a panacea/singular event that will turn everything around and not require a decades-long battle of attrition to weed out the RINOs and to get the message across that we want conservatives that walk/talk/act like conservatives.
Well. I don’t think there is a whole lot of difference between the Rat-e and gop-e anyways. So if folks don’t show based on the wretched immigration policies of both, then I would be about the last person to criticize them for it. But for the candidacy of Ted Cruz and a handful of what I think are sincere conservatives, I would be making my November 2016 vacation plans as well.
I see no point in providing legitimacy to a de facto one party system out of a misplaced sense of duty.
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