It’s a Small Minority After All

Accuracy in Academia ^ | April 24, 2015 | Tony Perkins.

[Academiadotorg]

Liberals have long wanted you to believe there’s a consensus in America for redefining marriage, but now they are going global! Last month, Yale Law School Dean Harold Koh, along with a team of foreign law experts, submitted an amicus brief urging the Supreme Court to join the “emerging global consensus” for same-sex marriage — essentially arguing that since most countries in the world are jumping off this moral cliff, why shouldn’t we? If that philosophy — which most of our mothers warned us against as children — wasn’t weak enough, they also need to dust off their World Book Encyclopedia. Turns out, less than 9 percent of the countries belonging to the United Nations have redefined marriage — and only one of them did so through the courts! pro marriage march

To correct the record, Brigham Young University law professors Lynn Wardle and Elizabeth Clark, along with 54 international law scholars, filed their own brief to the Court, shooting down the idea that America is behind the times in supporting same-sex “marriage” by comparing the U.S. to the rest of the world. They put the Ivy League and Left on the defensive with a stunning take-down of the logic that “everyone else is doing it.” Using the U.N. as its guide, the professors explain that 176 sovereign nations “retain the understanding of marriage as the union of a man and a woman… [In other words,] over ten times as many countries disallow same-sex marriage as allow it.” The team takes their argument even farther, explaining that this kind of majority “is not the result of mere animus and intolerance: 95 of the 176 states allowing only traditional marriage have decriminalized homosexual conduct.” Eighty-eight have even extended special right to the LGBT community in their countries. As far as the courts are concerned, 12 “national and international tribunals” have agreed that natural marriage is “consistent with human rights.” Wardle points out that “these include some of the jurisdictions with the earliest and strongest LGBT protections in the world.”

Here at home, our own polling shows how opposed voters are to letting the Supreme Court decide the issue. A whopping 61% of voters think that states and voters should remain free to uphold marriage as between a man and a woman. “If the U.S. Supreme Court is concerned about being out of step with the world’s leading democracies, it couldn’t make a bigger mistake,” Wardle says, “than becoming one of only two nations in the world to cut democracy off at its knees and force its judicial will upon the people.” The United States of America created the first working republic — Dean Koh’s brief pulls back the curtain on how far the Left will go to undermine it.

[Academiadotorg]

Reagan's policy towards the Soviet Union was "Trust but verify." Our policy towards academia should be "Verify, then trust." Academics are not quite as trustworthy as the Soviets were.

[ilovesarah2012]

I asked a same-sex marriage supporter on FB if three people can get married. He said they should be able to. Where do you draw the line? We could end up with “marriages” of one hundred people. Divorce lawyers would love it.

Redefining marriage will have all sorts of unintended consequences. Should be fun.

And since a judge recently gave chimps rights, surely they can be married, too.

[HiTech RedNeck]

The USA is the strongest modern faith based republic (that did not have a formal theocracy i.e. a state church that dictates policy).

That is peachy, at least for Jews and Christians, as long as the faith remains something roughly biblical.

It is not so peachy when the faith becomes a radical hateful secular agenda.

At the top of the US Constitution is the name of who’s responsible for keeping it sane. And that can only be done by entrusting one’s spirit to God.

[HiTech RedNeck]

And so let us pray. There are quite a few things gone spiritually off kilter and the nation is suffering because of it. Pace the conservative “haters,” this fad is not something sui generis as though, if it were made to vanish by fiat, all the other country’s woes would be gone. You do not fix the ventilation problem in the mine by snuffing out the canary.

[originalbuckeye]

“emerging global consensus” for same-sex marriage.....

The USA is leading the way and, let’s face it, Leftists lie about statistics all the time. Obama claims that ‘all economists’ agree with him when MOST don’t. Obama claims that deportations are up under his Admin but the statistics tell us differently. Lies are the foundation of the Democrat Party now.......pray America wakes up!

[BenLurkin]

It is difficult to support what used to be America — when what used to be America is now an exporter of perversion.

[Academiadotorg]

I’m old enough to remember when we sent missionaries to Africa. Now Africa sends missionaries here.

[cuban leaf]

It is my moral duty, EVERY TIME IT COMES UP, to argue against homosexual marriage. I do it a LOT on Facebook. And I always win. Always.

However, by “win”, I mean that I either get people to agree with me or get them to go on massive hissyfits because they can not counter any of my arguments. And it’s not that I’m so smart. It’s that I am simply right on this issue. It’s a bit like making the argument that the sun sets in the west, and knowing the science behind it. They don’t have a chance because they are wrong on so many levels.

[HiTech RedNeck]

Perhaps there may yet be a miracle of heart. It is the devil who lobbies for seeing transgressions as forever. God forgives (although, does not excuse).

[HiTech RedNeck]

And there will be, if there aren’t already, more serious believers in China than the USA.

Pendulums swing, all over the world. We have a tendency to take a USA centric view of the world. The USA earned this stature through faith — the persistent belief that God would back up what was right — and has dropped it through distortion and loss of faith.

[HiTech RedNeck]

Such a thing should be done with the attitude of a service to God, who would rather the worst sinner repent than be lost.

And this requires being familiar with the bigger picture. Why was marriage instituted at all? If what is being flouted meant nothing, then flouting it means nothing either.

[cuban leaf]

Why was marriage instituted at all?

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When it gets into the weeds this is where I go as well.

[Alex Murphy]

Brigham Young University law professors Lynn Wardle and Elizabeth Clark, along with 54 international law scholars, filed their own brief to the Court, shooting down the idea that America is behind the times in supporting same-sex “marriage” by comparing the U.S. to the rest of the world. They put the Ivy League and Left on the defensive with a stunning take-down of the logic that “everyone else is doing it.” Using the U.N. as its guide, the professors explain that 176 sovereign nations “retain the understanding of marriage as the union of a man and a woman… [In other words,] over ten times as many countries disallow same-sex marriage as allow it.” The team takes their argument even farther, explaining that this kind of majority “is not the result of mere animus and intolerance: 95 of the 176 states allowing only traditional marriage have decriminalized homosexual conduct.” Eighty-eight have even extended special right to the LGBT community in their countries. As far as the courts are concerned, 12 “national and international tribunals” have agreed that natural marriage is “consistent with human rights.” Wardle points out that “these include some of the jurisdictions with the earliest and strongest LGBT protections in the world.”

We learned on the thread I’m a senior GOP spokesman, and I’m gay. Let me get married that (at least in the state of Georgia) roughly 2% of the population are practicing homosexuals, and that three-quarters of that group do not live with their sexual partners. Of the remaining one-quarter of that 2% homosexual population - or 0.5% of the entire population - half have no intention or desire to make a covenantal commitment to their live-in homosexual partner, even if same-sex marriage were legalized.

To summarize, only 0.25% of a state's population are practicing homosexuals who have any intention of entering into a state-recognized marriage if the practice were legalized, if Georgia serves as a reliable example.

[RIghtwardHo]

And THIS is one of the biggest reasons why we are losing this debate and many others ... essentially cherry picking numbers or claiming that the numbers, in some way, aren’t real.

There is no way to fight if you don’t know the facts. The fact is, a majority (and growing) number of Americans support this travesty. But, hey ... let’s pretend they don’t and see where that gets us.

[cuban leaf]

Such a thing should be done with the attitude of a service to God, who would rather the worst sinner repent than be lost.

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Exactly. I was posting on two separate facebook threads over the last couple of days. One was a friend in KY, the other was a friend in Seattle and a fellow high school graduate from the same school.

My whole argument falls on condemning BEHAVIOR, and not people. And when one of the seattle liberals tries to throw the bible at me and argue that Jesus had compassion and would not say what I’m saying, I point out the conversation he had with the woman he saved from stoning”

“Woman, where are they? Did no one condemn you?” She said, “No one, Lord.” And Jesus said, “I do not condemn you, either. Go. From now on sin no more.”

Where did Jesus condone or “accept” adulterous behavior? He didn’t. Rather, he said he did not condemn her, but then he told her so sin no more. Jesus was NOT Mr. “Anything goes”. Rather, he showed compassion on people while still condemning their actions.

It is what I’m trying to do.

[HiTech RedNeck]

There’s a panoply of richness available from heaven to sincere marriages where both parties see it as a divine pursuit.

Shoot... even that noted gay designer pair, Dolce and Gabbana, let on as much when they recently stated their disdain for the “gay marriage” craze. They don’t want to be horning in on that party. Quite plausibly there is still hope for their souls, because honoring anything God has done is but a step from honoring God.

[HiTech RedNeck]

And behavior is more than “a manner of acting.”

It reflects what has been spiritually embraced. If your wellsprings are all cockeyed, so will be what is produced.

Even atheism is a spiritual pursuit, though formally bent on the denial of the world of spirit.

[GOPJ]

When boomers came along colleges were forced to expand to meet demand - and in the process lowered their requirements for professors...

Today we have people teaching in these “Universities” who would have been selling shoes in Sears 50 years ago. Some of them wonder if they really are good enough to be at such a high level in society - and I can assure them - they are not good enough.

The Education Industry's a fraud - resting on past laurels.

[Slambat]

“Academics are not quite as trustworthy as the Soviets were.”

That’s why I am very reserved about getting on the praise for,
have respect for, trust the teacher band wagon. I remember
school very well and the really bad, worthless and literally
unstable loony teachers vastly out numbered the good teachers. Since education is virtually nationalized it has
become another form of welfare for the over educated yet
unemployable. Very few people teach because it’s what they really
want to do. For the rest, it’s just another form of welfare.

[Steve_Seattle]

"There is no way to fight if you don’t know the facts. The fact is, a majority (and growing) number of Americans support this travesty. But, hey ... let’s pretend they don’t and see where that gets us."

In many cases I think the support for gay marriage is very shallow. People have been bullied into it by the media. I would bet that no more than 25-30% of the public strongly believes in gay marriage. Most people are tolerant, but really do believe that homosexuality is a disorder. Hell, I still hear gay jokes from liberals who support gay marriage. In private, of course.

People whose support for gay marriage is weak might still be swayed if they hear the arguments against it. They especially need to hear - in public - people who express their views with courage and without backpedaling.