Posted on 04/22/2015 5:40:07 PM PDT by nickcarraway
This has happened often enough so that some vengeful screw-up MUST have been caught by now.
I would never alert the cops, but it would be better for the perp if the cops caught him before I did.
I’m a firm believer in using a bat in such situations, so as not to put anybody’s 2A rights at risk.
How about tied to a tree and flayed with a weedeater?
Great question, and my strong answer is NO, I'm not ok with that at all.
I feel deeply sorry for the people raided in THIS case, and in very many other cases --I think it's terrible, dangerous, wanton. I think it's incredibly irresonsible and un-funny.
But there's more:
The problem has become MUCH bigger than these victims here, and these particular irresponsible perps who pulled this.
There are ALWAYS going to be hackers, and we do need to know more about their terrible crimes.
The problem is that even TINY little towns have well-paid, fat NUTS who can't run a 1/2 mile and got few dates in high-school, going around in dress-up, pretending like they're on SEAL Team 6, kicking doors down and waving machine-guns around.
They have Bearcats, APC's, and sometimes MRAP's. They have all kinds of tactiCool stuff.
They're bored GEARDOS, basically.
There's too much funding and too much gear for this adult man PLAYTIME.
So far the victims are mostly poor or middle-class, and when some high-profile, liberal gummint people instead becomes victims, then there will come a small chance of stopping all this, or at least a big part of this.
SWAT TEAMS HAVE BECOME **TOYS**.
They'll deny that a trillion times and cite all kinds of "safety need" nonsense, but that's the truth.
They're the toys of cops, and the bad guys, too.
Should the trend continue gradually, as it is, or more suddenly? That’s a good consideration to ponder. Sometimes, fewer people are harmed when suddenly confronted with obvious danger instead of being incrementally adjusted to it.
What sort of ignorant, half assed, Barney Fife numbskulls would base a dynamic entry operation on an anonymous call? Did a judge sign off on this?
I like the idea of mandatory 30-year prison term for those who call in “swatting” attacks.
In the saner world I grew up in, an anonymous tip would be responded to by dispatching a patrol car with a couple of officers who would knock on the door and find out if there was really a problem.
I would doubt there was a warrant. They can always justify it on “reason to believe a felony is in progress”. No officials will be punished, you can bet on that.
In Fairfax County, VA a man legally carrying a pistol was Swatted. The Fairfax County Police arrested the caller and a couple weeks ago a liberal judge let him go saying there was not enough evidence pointing to prove he was the caller.
I was going to point out that E911 routing is much more difficult to trace than a regular IP switch call.
i see no information regarding what prompted the event.
don’t they have the caller-id of the one that called it in?
did they knock on their door?
what’s their name?
where are they?
have charges been filed?
if none of the above... this sounds more like a false flag event staged by those trying to push the police state
Ah....
and THAT is where the bat enters the picture.....
The cops love it. They get to dress up and play soldier, get overtime, and shoot a few dogs or old men defending their property. Liberals love it because they can have hired goons perpetrate the violence they are too cowardly to commit themselves.
I don’t think SWAT teams should be used without the written authorization of an elected official.
Our local dispatch center has actually trained to sniff out SWATTING prank calls before the cops get there. I’ve heard them dispatch cops to supposed murder calls and start advising the officers about inconsistencies in the stories being told and lack of prior calls to the residence.
It usually ends with the cops saying, “We have talked to the resident and done a voluntary walk through with nothing found.”
Well trained dispatchers will help reduce this problem.
Anyone who pulls a stunt like this should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. It should be a major felony, carrying a 5-year sentence at least.
Basic detective work is a relic of the past. The informant doesn’t identify themselves. Strike one on credibility. The cops made no apparent effort to gather their own intel on the supposed criminal or the target premises. Strike two. They even reject counter intel on the subject from a relative who appears in person to vouch for him and offers to enter and contact the subject. Strike three.
Did they even try calling the guy on the phone? Wouldn’t that be step one in a potential hostage situation?
I assume on point 3 they wouldn’t send a civilian in because of the risk. Obviously it would have been better if they called, but I guess they wanted the element of surprise.
Well, they got that. I hope Mr. Terpstra surprises them with a lawsuit. The police ought to be a little more than trained attack dogs that you point at a target and say “sic ‘em!” Especially when anyone can say “attack.” Some yo yo in Romania could have made the call as a prank.
“What sort of ignorant, half assed, Barney Fife numbskulls would base a dynamic entry operation on an anonymous call? Did a judge sign off on this?”
Well, by going to the website pulled of the back of the car in post #2, it looks like the “Barney Fife” is Deputy Cheif Scott Meyers. There’s a picture of him at the sheriff’s website that matches him in the photo in post #2. So he’s the overweight guy leaning over the car sporting the drop leg holster and holding his pistol sideways like a gang member. Obviously he’s just anxious for all the drama since he failed to recognize all the other reasons that the thing was a hoax. To his credit, he didn’t bust down the door, charging in guns a blazing, flash bangs and all. One of these times when that happens they’re be an occupant who reacts reflexively, laying on the floor unloading a 12ga at what he awakes to as a home invasion.
Barney Fife better get hassled to no end over this.
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