Posted on 04/20/2015 5:08:42 PM PDT by Kaslin
ve sometimes asserted, only half-jokingly, that statists believe all of our income belongs to the government and that we should be grateful if were allowed to keep any slice of what we earn.
This is, at least in part, the mentality behind the tax expenditure concept, which creates a false equivalence between spending programs and provisions of the tax code that allow people to keep greater amounts of their own income.
Heres how I characterized this moral blindness when criticizing a Washington Post columnist back in 2013.
Hiatt presumably thinks that the governments decision not to impose double taxation is somehow akin to a giveaway. But that only makes sense if you assume that government has a preemptive claim to all private income. …Hiatt wants us the think that theres no moral, ethical, or economic difference between giving person A $5,000 of other peoples money and person B being allowed to keep $5,000 of his or her own money.
Today, I have a particularly absurd real-world illustration of this statist mindset.
Two writers for the Wonkblog section of the Washington Post recently wrote an article entitled, The rich get government handouts just like the poor. Here are 10 of them.
Did their list of 10 handouts include the Export-Import Bank, which lines the pockets of big corporations? Nope.
Did it include agriculture subsidies, which provide unearned goodies for big agribusiness firms? Nope.
Did it the TARP bailout, which shielded Wall Street fatcats from capitalism? Nope.
And how about subsidized terrorism insurance, ethanol goodies, and green energy subsidies? Nope, nope, and nope.
Or the handouts in Obamacare for major pharmaceutical companies and big insurance companies? Nope and nope.
Instead, every single handout that the rich get from government is nothing more than a provision of the tax code that lets people keep more of their own money.
Im not joking. Heres the list, followed by my two cents.
1. The mortgage interest deduction for big houses and second homes.
As Ive previously explained, I dont think the tax code should be tilted in favor of residential real estate. But a handout is when the government takes money from Person A and gives it to Person B.
2. The yacht tax deduction.
There actually isnt a yacht tax deduction, but if you can live in something, it can be eligible for a mortgage interest deduction. I dont think thats wise tax policy, but its not an example of government taking from Person A and giving to Person B.
3. Rental property.
The authors appear to be upset that people running a business get to subtract costs from gross income when calculating net income. But thats exactly how businesses are supposed to be taxed. And even if one thought, for some odd reason, that gross income was the right tax base, this still isnt an example of government taking from Person A to give to Person B.
4. Fancy business meals.
As just noted, businesses should be taxed on profits rather than gross receipts. Well, profits are the difference between total income and total costs, including the cost of business-related meals. And even if one thinks that folks in business are lying and mischaracterizing personal meals, theyre not spending other peoples money. No funds are being taken from Person A and being given to Person B.
5. The capital gains tax rate.
In a good tax system, theres no double taxation of income that is saved and invested, so the capital gains tax should be abolished. As such, the preferential rate in the current system is more accurately characterized as a mitigation of a penalty. But even if one believes that saving and investment should be double taxed, a lower capital gains tax rate doesnt take money from Person A to give to Person B.
6. The estate tax.
The death tax is triple taxation, so it also should be abolished. Regardless, letting a family hold onto its own money is not the same as taking from Person A to give to Person B.
7. Gambling loss deductions.
The government taxes gamblers on their net winnings (if any), which is the proper approach. And even if the government gave a deduction for net losses (which isnt the case), this wouldnt be an example of taking from Person A and giving to Person B.
8. The Social Security earnings limit.
The Social Security system is supposed to be social insurance, and one of the implications of this approach is that theres a limit on the benefits one can receive and the payments one has to make. As such, its silly to assert that the wage base cap is somehow improper. But even if one believed in turning Social Security into a pure redistribution scheme, the existing earnings limit simply means a cap on what the government takes. Theres no coerced handout from Person A to Person B.
9. Retirement plans.
The bad news is that we have pervasive double taxation in the internal revenue code. The good news is that some forms of retirement savings, such as IRAs and 401(k)s, are protected from double taxation. That protection does not require any money being taken from Person A and given to Person B.
10. Tax prep.
Im not a fan of companies like H&R Block that benefit from an unfair and convoluted tax code. Under a simple and fair system like the flat tax, they would go out of business. But a deduction for tax preparation costs simply allows a taxpayer to keep more of his or her income. Theres no handout from Person A to Person B.
In case you didnt notice, theres a strong moral component to my argument. The leftists think youre getting a handout if you get to keep more of your own money.
And its also economically illiterate when applied to provisions of the tax code that make sense, such as companies getting to subtract expenses when calculating taxable income.
Or individuals not being subjected to double taxation.
...and lowering the rate of increase for a benefit is a (draconian) cut.
and this is why Republicans compromising with leftists is destructive. Bush did it and expanded govt spending. BoehnerMcconnell did this and expanded govt spending
It’s NOT the money, it’s the time squandered earning same. Do the takers have to be time slaves to the gubermint? Heck NO!
Of course!
In the left's Orwellian world, all earnings from economic activity, including all businesses and wages earned, belong to the "state."
Which, incidentally, is the underpinnings of Fascism.
Look it up...
That would be because all money rightfully belongs to the government.
That, sir, is an excellent point...
This is the same lack of intelligence (or honesty) that says we give subsidies to the oil & gas industry.
Those “subsidies” are nothing more than the same tax breaks every company gets to deduct.
But, asking liberals to be honest is like asking rabbits not to multiply.
bump.
Even to call it a “cut” at all is wrong.
It is a fundamental difference between liberalism and conservatism.
At a fundamental level, conservatives believe that the money you make belongs to you.
Liberals believe that everything you make belong to the government, and anything that you receive Is at the grace of the government.
I didn’t read the whole thread before posting, but you beat me to it.
And you are 100% correct.
Liberals redefining words to make their own talking points sound better? NO WAY!
But when the politicians tell the low info voters that we subsidize oil companies they think we are giving them money.
Our Lord said we should let them have their money. It has their name on it. They can run their economy with their money. Meanwhile, we should start running our lives with ours.
Funny how the concept of keeping a fair minimum wage goes down the tubes once we talk taxation.
.... And the government will also choose to which god it will tithe this money... (Hint: fed funding for muslim outreach programs).
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