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Ted Cruz: Feds Should Stay Out of States' Vaccine Policy
Newsmax ^ | Monday, 20 Apr 2015 12:15 PM

Posted on 04/20/2015 10:53:50 AM PDT by SoConPubbie

Some voters might think that the vaccine skepticism movement—whose proponents are pejoratively called anti-vaxxers—lost its political oomph this winter. After New Jersey Governor Chris Christie told reporters that vaccination was a choice for parents to make, the backlash found every other likely Republican candidate affirming that he supported vaccinations. That was a blow to activists who have become convinced, by junk science, that the scheduled shots can cause autism. Last week, when New Hampshire anti-vaccine activist Laura Condon asked Christie if he could support expanded exemptions, he shut her down.

“You can't count on me,” Christie said.

Condon wasn’t done. She showed up at a meet-and-greet with Texas Senator Ted Cruz, held at a state representative's home. After confronting this Bloomberg reporter for what she saw as “mean” coverage of the vaccine story, she worked her way into the crowd for Cruz’s lengthy question-and-answer session. Much of the Q&A was broadcast on Periscope; the video below, taken from roughly same angle as that feed, records the unamplified question and Cruz’s answer.

https://youtu.be/7Qi6FsgWbv4

“In Texas, you have a conscientious belief exemptions as part of the GOP platform there,” said Condon. “Is that a human right that you would support for all of us?”

“Thank you for the question, and thank you for your leadership and compassion,” said Cruz. “Let me start with some first principles and then get to the specific question you asked. First principle, number one: I am a passionate defender of religious liberty, and have spent the past two decades of my life fighting for religious liberty. I think we need to honor and protect the very first protection in the First Amendment to the Bill of Rights. Second, I am also a passionate defender of parental rights. I think that nobody loves their children more than parents do.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2016election; antivacc; antivaxxers; cruz; election2016; tedcruz; texas; vaccinations; vaccines
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"If we must have an enemy at the head of Government, let it be one whom we can oppose, and for whom we are not responsible, who will not involve our party in the disgrace of his foolish and bad measures." - Alexander Hamilton
 
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1 posted on 04/20/2015 10:53:50 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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2 posted on 04/20/2015 10:55:06 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

No.

No government, Fed, State, or local should be making laws that require people to accept any kind of medical treatment.

If a person is sick, they’ll seek medical treatment. Let them.

Medicine should be returned to the private sector.

It’s not within the purview of government.


3 posted on 04/20/2015 10:56:40 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.)
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To: SoConPubbie

We could fire 80% of FED employees, and nobody would notice.


4 posted on 04/20/2015 10:57:20 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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5 posted on 04/20/2015 10:58:21 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: stephenjohnbanker

I think we saw a lot of that with the gubmint shutdown. It affected very few.


6 posted on 04/20/2015 10:59:06 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: SoConPubbie

It’s a tough controversy because part of freedom is having the right to believe and do something stupid.

But the other side is that this is a public health issue, it’s not just confined to the individuals involved. Vaccines work by herd immunity as well as for the individual. Someone who contracts a disease that is normally kept in check by vaccination can infect someone who is immunity compromised, whose vaccination didn’t take, or is too young to be vaccinated.


7 posted on 04/20/2015 11:05:27 AM PDT by Pelham (The refusal to deport is defacto amnesty)
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To: PieterCasparzen

But the critical issue is the feds have no constitutional authority to meddle with this and most other things they meddle with.

The states are a different story. Each state is subject to its own state constitution and the will of the people of that state. If enough people in your state agree with you, then you can push for that kind of state legislation if needed.


8 posted on 04/20/2015 11:05:41 AM PDT by PapaNew (The grace of God & freedom always win the debate in the forum of ideas over unjust law & government)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

You’re 80% is about spot on for the unconstitutional portion of the $4 trillion federal government.

The only ones that would notice would be the several hundred thousand federal workers, bureaucrat heads, and officials who would be going home without a job.

It would the most miraculous and best thing that could happen to America in a long time. Almost an impossibility.


9 posted on 04/20/2015 11:09:39 AM PDT by PapaNew (The grace of God & freedom always win the debate in the forum of ideas over unjust law & government)
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To: goodwithagun; All

Proof positive.

And why worry about Vaccine Policy, when Obama is recruiting illegals with no vaccines, and when they get here, are STILL not vaccinated.


10 posted on 04/20/2015 11:12:50 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: SoConPubbie

He gave a constitutional response. It’s correct. I don’t have a problem with it.

States do have rights. However, if a state can’t order people to work for $1/hr or be prejudiced in hiring, then they also should be prohibited from forced injections into citizens’ bodies.


11 posted on 04/20/2015 11:20:07 AM PDT by Yaelle ("You're gonna fly away, Glad you're going my way..." - Smokey)
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There are 2,748,978 civilian federal employees in the United States as of January 2009. “

This is PRE Obama.


12 posted on 04/20/2015 11:20:39 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: stephenjohnbanker

[ And why worry about Vaccine Policy, when Obama is recruiting illegals with no vaccines, and when they get here, are STILL not vaccinated. ]

Ding Ding WINNER, Yup, LIE-beral hypocracy at it’s finest!


13 posted on 04/20/2015 11:32:54 AM PDT by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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To: Yaelle

[ He gave a constitutional response. It’s correct. I don’t have a problem with it.

States do have rights. However, if a state can’t order people to work for $1/hr or be prejudiced in hiring, then they also should be prohibited from forced injections into citizens’ bodies. ]

Agree, also, ever since the Senatros started being elected people have become disenguaged in state level politics because they were made not to matter by the “Pro-regessives” in ther early 20th century.


14 posted on 04/20/2015 11:34:42 AM PDT by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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To: Pelham

Crazy idea that you can mandate people to take injections to help those for whom their own injections did not take.

Vaccines case death. Sure, it’s rare. But how can you be commanded to risk that for your child, to help a third party? It is unconstitutional. Herd immunity is total bull.

Very few vaccines last lifelong. If 100% of children were vaccinated in Townsville, the Townsville people from 15-95 would have all different levels of immunity, from 70% to probably a lot at 0%. The kids themselves, some would not have complete immunity.

If an unvaccinated person came to town Sick, then either there is no risk because vaccines are perfect, or there would be a risk and people would get sick.

The #1 problem with vaccines is the amount given at once. The combo vaccines increase the chance of serious permanent or fatal side effects exponentially. You cannot get a pertussis vaccine or a measles vaccine in the USA without them being combined in dangerous multi vaccines.

The #2 problem is the tender age of the recipient and his or her gut biome. It isn’t ready for the immune adjuvants and the the rest of the ingredients, they can’t be tolerated well, and neurological changes will take place. How bad will the changes be? That might depend on each child’s own genes and on what his immune system is doing at the time.

Autism is looking more common than they say, to me I’d say one child in 30 rather than one in 60. Mostly males. I wish we would give our little men a better chance at a neurotypical life. I’m raising both kinds of young men, and neurotypical is better. It really makes life easier to have more command over your brain and emotions.

I’d like to stop all vaccines before the age of two, as they do in Japan, and then make each disease’s vaccine available singly. So that parents could choose which diseases they’d like their child to catch and be forever Immune to, and which they’d like to avoid for a while, with the unavoidable risks a vaccine brings.


15 posted on 04/20/2015 11:36:41 AM PDT by Yaelle ("You're gonna fly away, Glad you're going my way..." - Smokey)
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To: SoConPubbie

Good. The same could be applied to nearly every issue and he would be correct.


16 posted on 04/20/2015 11:38:41 AM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: stephenjohnbanker

OK, so about 22 hundred thousand or a couple of million. Wouldn’t it be nice. Rots a ruck.


17 posted on 04/20/2015 11:43:43 AM PDT by PapaNew (The grace of God & freedom always win the debate in the forum of ideas over unjust law & government)
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To: Pelham
It’s a tough controversy because part of freedom is having the right to believe and do something stupid. But the other side is that this is a public health issue, it’s not just confined to the individuals involved.

Yes. The issue defies a simple answer.

18 posted on 04/20/2015 11:44:29 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: PapaNew

I never said it would happen. How could it, when both parties are corrupt?

I’m saying that an 80% cut, judiciously applied, would not cause Americans to even take notice. They would not be missed.


19 posted on 04/20/2015 11:49:58 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: PapaNew; stephenjohnbanker

A huge portion of Fed spend goes to contractors/vendors.

Guys I’ve worked with have been sitting there for years collecting fat amounts. It’s just what consultants do, follow the money. Fed is where the money is the past few years.


20 posted on 04/20/2015 11:57:12 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.)
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