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To: Bratch

Not to suggest I’m smarter than Mark Levin or Gov. Palin on this issue but I would simply remind people that nobody had the slightest notion that the gathering called to amend the Articles of Confederation would end up with the delegates completely throwing out the Articles and taking a bow towards a new Constitution.


26 posted on 04/16/2015 10:22:37 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Texas Eagle
James Madison disagrees with you. Read Federalist #40.
28 posted on 04/16/2015 10:27:47 PM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: Texas Eagle
the gathering called to amend the Articles of Confederation...

You are referring to an apple, while the issue at hand is an orange.

The gathering for the Articles was a Constitutional Convention.

The one now gathering steam to reign-in a runaway feral government is NOT a Constitutional Convention. It is an Article-V convention.

Think of it as using a different means, not used much, to *propose* amendments. The runaway congress can propose amendments today, but since they are a big part of the problem, they won't produce the necessary govt-limiting amendments. The states have a vested interest, though, and must proposed amendments to do so.

Once proposed, whether by congress, or the States, the process is the exact same - ratification.

32 posted on 04/16/2015 11:38:37 PM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: Texas Eagle
<>nobody had the slightest notion that the gathering called to amend the Articles of Confederation would end up with the delegates completely throwing out the Articles and taking a bow towards a new Constitution.<>

That is not an accurate summary. It is misleading.

The purpose of the 1787 federal convention was recommended by the delegates to the Annapolis convention of 1786.

Delegates informally discussed a wider convention and resolved on September 14th 1786 to ask their states for a general meeting to take into consideration the situation of the United States, to devise other such provisions as shall appear to them necessary to render the constitution of the federal government adequate to the exigencies of the Union, and to report such an Act for that purpose to the United States in Congress assembled.

In 1787, as in a future state convention, the authority of state delegates will be limited and defined by their states. Neither convention did/can “throw out” anything.

35 posted on 04/17/2015 1:35:12 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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