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To: DoughtyOne

Thanks. I don’t agree that it is murder because there was no intent to commit murder. I could see it termed as an (non deliberate) execution, or manslaughter (gross negligence). Not murder.


154 posted on 04/12/2015 4:49:58 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

No problem. I didn’t mean to accuse you of something you hadn’t done.

I would term it a wrongful (perhaps mistaken) use of an inappropriate weapon resulting in the death of a suspect.

Somewhere along the way, the shooter either wasn’t trained right, or he simply wasn’t equipped to make snap judgement field decisions. He clearly screwed up big-time.

In the video did you notice the other officer telling the driving officer to stop here? The driver simply didn’t listen. That to me could have been an indication that the person driving couldn’t follow simple commands. Makes me wonder if it’s the same guy.

No, it wasn’t murder, but I can understand why some folks get upset when you address that. It was terrible what happened to this guy.

At the same time this guy did not comply with officer’s commands. Once again he was a built individual. This caused officers to consider it a sort of ‘worst case’ scenario. Tasers were indicated.

I cannot help but notice the perp screwed himself over here.

1. He didn’t comply
2. He didn’t get down on the ground
3. Once shot he still wrestled with the officers
4. Valuable time was lost while the officers tried to get this guy under control even after he was shot.

Was this guy taking this as some joke? Did he have a reason for not complying? Did he want to show off for his buddies in the neighborhood? Whatever the case, his tom foolery cost him his life.

If you’ve been shot, submit immediately and let the officers concentrate on after shooting protocol. Don’t keep everyone involved in subduing you so they can’t go radio for an emergency vehicle response.

Some folks will complain that the officers were still trying to handcuff the guy. Officers have to get you under control, and cuffing the suspect is how they do that. You can’t just let him go, or continue to be combative.


155 posted on 04/12/2015 5:25:44 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (The question, Jeb Bush? The answer: NO! Rove, is a devious propagandist & enemy of Conservatives!)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Legally, maybe it's not murder, yet I must say, murder!!! We're not in court. We can say that. Just like we are able to assume guilt. In court, they can't. We are free to express our opinion.
And your reputation is intact here! We like ya.
164 posted on 04/12/2015 8:50:20 PM PDT by Shimmer1 (Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity. MLK)
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