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Why is the military moving back into base deep under the Rocky Mountains?
Daily Mail ^
| 4/8/15
| James Nye
Posted on 04/08/2015 2:49:04 PM PDT by Teflonic
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To: thorvaldr
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They seem to be not at all worried about the Iranians or North Koreans firing an EMP device from a container ship."
Iran has ICBMs (see satellite launches) and other land and sea missiles that could reach us in various ways. See links and other information in some of the comments.
Iran endorses nuclear EMP attack on United Stateshttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3269775/posts
Russia has threatened to nuke us in many ways, but Russia tends to prefer that one of its partner countries start a war.
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posted on
04/08/2015 4:43:37 PM PDT
by
familyop
(We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
To: kosciusko51
ever wonder why NSA moved to Utah? far from the east coast...
The Utah Data Center, also known as the Intelligence Community Comprehensive National Cybersecurity Initiative Data Center,[1] is a data storage facility for the United States Intelligence Community that is designed to store data estimated to be on the order of exabytes or larger.[2] Its purpose is to support the Comprehensive National Cybersecurity Initiative (CNCI), though its precise mission is classified.[3] The National Security Agency (NSA) leads operations at the facility as the executive agent for the Director of National Intelligence.[4] It is located at Camp Williams near Bluffdale, Utah, between Utah Lake and Great Salt Lake and was completed in May 2014 at a cost of $1.5 billion.[5]
According to an interview with Edward Snowden, the project was initially known as the Massive Data Repository within NSA, but was renamed to Mission Data Repository due to the former sounding too “creepy”.[6]
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posted on
04/08/2015 4:47:19 PM PDT
by
B212
To: Carthego delenda est
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posted on
04/08/2015 4:48:32 PM PDT
by
potlatch
("Dream as if you'll live forever...Live as if you'll die today")
To: Skywise
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And you could probably do that with a small number of centrifuges too..."
Or 190,000 of 'em.
State Department says Netanyahu twisted Kerry's words in speech to Congress
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3263979/posts
Not that it matters much. Russia and China only want Iran and/or North Korea to start the nuclear exchange before they try to finish it.
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posted on
04/08/2015 4:55:00 PM PDT
by
familyop
(We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
To: Teflonic
My father-in-law (now 74) was a concrete foreman on that job.
To: Teflonic
I’m having a vision of Slim Pickens riding the bronco A-bomb to oblivion. Obama is going to get us all killed and a police state installed where America used to be.
To: Teflonic
I think it’s because the decision-makers (retirement-age midgrade officers) grew up watching “War Games,” and everyone junior to them saw fifteen seasons of “Stargate: SG-1.”
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posted on
04/08/2015 5:01:25 PM PDT
by
Tax-chick
("Be afraid only of thoughtlessness and pusillanimity." ~ Pope John Paul II)
To: thorvaldr
There are three types of potential EMP originating from a nuclear explosion. The worst requires a very high altitude burst that excites the atmosphere and creates a very widespread, fast-acting, high energy pulse. The other two which would be more likely from a scud-like missile capable of fitting in a shipping container, and thankfully tend to be area-effect weapons with much more limited range.
Sure they would screw up the coastal cities but the entire country would not descend into the 11th century. At least not immediately.
Best to read up on HEMP and SHREMP. Learn the difference; but it’ll all ruin your day.
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posted on
04/08/2015 5:09:43 PM PDT
by
Blueflag
(Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
To: potlatch
On “cities,” high altitude electromagnetic pulses may shut down nearly all vehicles for broad areas under the sources of pulses (micro-components in vehicles). Routes in and out of cities would be blocked by vehicles. Such transportation would cease. Some have said that vehicles are shielded from RF pulses and rays by their steel bodies, but that would require tight seals at all joints between body panels and heavy connections to ground. Body panels (like cases around electronic equipment) would also likely go high in voltage potential to cause damage to components from ground, so to speak. Gas stations would also cease to operate (microelectronics needed for dispensers and likely lack of power for pumping in such an event).
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posted on
04/08/2015 5:13:49 PM PDT
by
familyop
(We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
To: McGruff
I suspect Iran has the software to simulate the results of the nuclear material they have for a EMP type reaction. They do not even need to do a test.
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posted on
04/08/2015 5:23:48 PM PDT
by
jonrick46
(America's real drug problem: other people's money (the Commutist's opium addiction).)
To: Ghost of SVR4
1 acre ~ 210 ft x 210 ft
1/2 acre ~ 105 ft x 210 ft
Very small area. No way it’s that small.
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posted on
04/08/2015 5:24:37 PM PDT
by
ProtectOurFreedom
(For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not, no explanation is possible)
To: Blueflag; thorvaldr
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The worst requires a very high altitude burst that excites the atmosphere and creates a very widespread, fast-acting, high energy pulse. The other two which would be more likely from a scud-like missile capable of fitting in a shipping container, and thankfully tend to be area-effect weapons with much more limited range."
Iran readies launch of new satellite (Iran's second satellite launch, 11/09/2009
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2382720/posts
US confirms Iran launch of first home-built satellite afp ^ | 2-03-09 | staff
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2177582/posts
Iran Satellite Launch Heightens Missile Development Concerns By Donna Miles
American Forces Press Service
WASHINGTON, Feb. 3, 2009
http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=52939
Iran hails successful launch of satellite rocket Posted on Wed 03 Feb 2010 02:51:50 AM MST
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2443266/posts
Iran fires satellite carrier into spacehttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2443258/posts
Iran Launches Third Satellite (2012)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2841888/posts
Lawmaker: Iran's Revolutionary Guard Practicing for An EMP Attack on the United Stateshttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2806848/posts
Iran Placing Medium-Range Missiles in Venezuela; Can Reach the U.S. (12/09/10)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2640111/posts‘Die Welt’: Iran building rocket bases in Venezuela (17 May 2011)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2721122/posts
Russia, N.Korea, China give Iran missile aid -CIA
09/08/01
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/519198/posts
Iran military engineers on hand for N. Korea missile launch
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1664760/posts
(7/12/06)
10 Iranian Missile Engineers Visited N. Korea:Sankei reports(check on NK’s Chinese equipments)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1658850/posts
(07/01/06)
S. Korea, U.S. verifying reports on test of new N.K. missile in Iran: source
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1834307/posts
(4,000 kilometer range—will reach the Vatican—May 16th, 2007)
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posted on
04/08/2015 5:25:58 PM PDT
by
familyop
(We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
To: boxlunch
“coffee makers...non necessary electronic items”
My God, Man. Are you insane?
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posted on
04/08/2015 5:30:42 PM PDT
by
ProtectOurFreedom
(For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not, no explanation is possible)
To: B212
For creepy, nothing beats “Massive Ordnance Penetrator.” It always reminded me of my college days for some reason.
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posted on
04/08/2015 5:34:01 PM PDT
by
ProtectOurFreedom
(For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not, no explanation is possible)
To: familyop
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posted on
04/08/2015 6:26:48 PM PDT
by
potlatch
("Dream as if you'll live forever...Live as if you'll die today")
To: molson209
North Korea, Iran, Cuba, Russia and China... you know - Obama’s friends...
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posted on
04/08/2015 6:30:27 PM PDT
by
GOPJ
("A bird doesn't sing because it has an answer, it sings because it has a song."- Joan Walsh not M.A.)
To: Teflonic
Russia makes nuke threats on the days Iran does not.
To: boxlunch
...why not on all auto electronics, gas stations, switching electronics for electric and gas pipelines, hospital equipment, banking and ATM electronics, telecom systems, airlines, trains, etc. We should also make sure that our manufacturing facilities have EMP hardened electronic devices so that we can continue with manufacturing and replacement of parts in the even of a strike like that. Railroads... and everything that services them... If trucks, cars, and planes are knocked out it'll be trains that keep us alive.
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posted on
04/08/2015 6:41:43 PM PDT
by
GOPJ
("A bird doesn't sing because it has an answer, it sings because it has a song."- Joan Walsh not M.A.)
To: Teflonic; blueyon; KitJ; T Minus Four; xzins; CMS; The Sailor; ab01; txradioguy; Jet Jaguar; ...
To: potlatch
You’re most welcome, and thanks for the motivation.
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posted on
04/08/2015 8:53:03 PM PDT
by
familyop
(We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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