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Bill Cosby Accuser Jane Doe No. 2 Reveals Her Identity: 'I Decided to Speak My Truth'
People ^ | 3/4/2015 | Jeff Truesdell

Posted on 04/07/2015 2:13:56 PM PDT by SteveH

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To: gogeo

No you haven’t, because it isn’t, I correct a lot of misinformation on a lot of topics, on a lot of threads.

It seems that you don’t like Cosby being covered like this and new victims and accusers being discussed.

You can’t keep a lid on this, the media did a pretty good job before, but that is so much more difficult today than it was was, even back in 2006.


41 posted on 04/07/2015 4:55:17 PM PDT by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: ansel12

“... this vast conspiracy ...”

It only takes one in every 100,000,000 to greedy or ill to make your “conspiracy.”

It is a possibility.


42 posted on 04/07/2015 4:56:45 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: deport

Sure, a combination of things, including a massive social media mistake by Cosby, really broke the dam in 2014.

Even females who are somewhat celebrities on their own have come forward with either supporting evidence, or rape, or assault claims of their own, with stories going back to the 1960s.


43 posted on 04/07/2015 4:58:10 PM PDT by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: ansel12
You see? There you go.

Who says I'm "trying to keep a lid on this?"

What does that mean?

44 posted on 04/07/2015 5:00:07 PM PDT by gogeo (If you are Tea Party, the eGOP does not want you.)
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To: ansel12
Like I said, the more you start laying on nonsense, the longer your posts get, and the color comes out.

Ahh, gee, why might my posts get longer?  Gosh I can't imagine why.  Oh, could it be because I include the comments I'm responding to for people's ease of reading and understanding the conversation?  Could it be that my posts get longer because the responses I'm responding too get longer?

Do I need to repeat that for you?  If so, please just re-read it.

One way to keep my answers shorter... quit repeating yourself when you've already made a point and it has been addressed.


So the answer is zero. Those police reports were not common knowledge to the public.

More lying, actually we knew about at least 13 of the victims back then, it was all news back in 2005 and 2006, you really think the media didn't report on the Cosby scandals and accusations and court settlement? They did.

Ansel, you are correct here.  13 women had come forward in 2006.  It had been my understanding that they came foward in the last 2013 to 2014 time frame.  The reason I thought this was because there was much talk of more women coming forward all the time, and I thought they all came foward in this time frame.  As you state, 13 had come forward around 2006  It's up to 30 women now.  I learned this developing information to include in my response to you.  This is the article I found that addresses this.

More lying?  Ansel, if I am simply mistaken about a fact, it doesn't make me a liar when I recite what I think to be true.  You are so wound up on this you can't even see straight.  Why would I purposefully lie to you about something that is on the record.  I was wrong.  That is the long and the short of it.


How many rape, drugging/rape victims and sexual assault victims of Clinton’s have come forward, and how many out of court settlements with a woman who filed a police report of him raping her, has Clinton made?

Bill Clinton settled with Paula Jones for $850,000.00.  You didn't recall that?  Here LINK  The case was thrown out two weeks later, but he had agreed to the settlement prior to that.  I doubt he paid a dime, but it was noteworthy none the less.

CBS ByJENNIFER HOAR AP November 8, 2006, (excerpts) "Bill Cosby settled a civil lawsuit filed by a woman who said the entertainer drugged and sexually assaulted her at his home outside Philadelphia."--"The federal judge presiding over the case earlier denied Cosby's request for a gag order and the plaintiff's request to shield the names of a dozen other women who say Cosby assaulted them."

Yawn.  Ansel12, I didn't object to your suggestion this took place.  I'm not sure what benefit you think it provided, us both stipulating by statement or by default that it did take place.

The facts are still these:

I still think Cosby looks guilty.
He has not been convicted yet.
It is not a defense of Cosby to mention this.
It is a defense of the rule of law, something most of us Conservatives here support.

45 posted on 04/07/2015 5:01:17 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (The question is Jeb Bush. The answer is NO!)
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To: Born to Conserve

No, if you think it is such a vast conspiracy, then you don’t know the details of all this, and you must be thinking that it is just something recent, with a few Hollywood women, or something.

By the way, the numbers are in the dozens, not 3, as in 1 per 100,000,000


46 posted on 04/07/2015 5:01:54 PM PDT by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: gogeo

If you are fine with it being discussed, then let it be discussed, but you seem to be very unhappy about it being discussed.


47 posted on 04/07/2015 5:04:18 PM PDT by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: DoughtyOne

First the color, and then the growing length and rambling of your posts, and then they just become unreadable and silly.


48 posted on 04/07/2015 5:05:54 PM PDT by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: ansel12
This is what I said:

Surely you know...it's not about guilt or innocence, but the seriousness of the charges.

Due process is unnecessary where guys are concerned.

I'm willing to leave it to a court of law, and I don't feel the need to camp on every Cosby thread.

That's where we differ.

49 posted on 04/07/2015 5:11:56 PM PDT by gogeo (If you are Tea Party, the eGOP does not want you.)
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To: rey

Rey, kids are often much more a product of their environment than we or even they want to be.

Witness the kid that grows up with what he knows are flawed parents, but he/she grows up none the less to do some of the very things they swore as kids they never would. I believe the reason is because the dynamics of the home they grew up in seems most comfortable to them. This is the only family dynamic they have witnessed. Some kids fall into this trap, but many don’t. It’s still a valid point.

Nancy Reagan suggested kids just say no. It was so powerful a message that drug abuse in the nation among high school kids dropped by a significant amount.

Now you state that you haven’t seen any kids trying to emulate Obama. Are you absolutely sure about that?

In the George Zimmerman vs Trayvon Martin situation, you had Obama opening his fat yap commenting about what should or shouldn’t take place. He also made comments about how it was reasoned for Black youth to think they were being treated unfairly.

Out comes the verdict, and the “get even” movement spread across the nation like wild-fire. In Chicago you had Black gangs accosting large numbers of White people in public settings. Do you think that just happened spontaneously, or do you think a number of contributing factors played in, including the unfortunate comments of Obama?

You are of course welcome to your opinion, but Obama, Jackson, Sharpton, the NAACP, the Black Caucus, and many others played into this mindset, that Blacks were treated unfairly, and had a right to act out because it was reasonable for them to.

No these kids don’t dress like Obama and the others. None the less they take some ill advised comments and incorporate them into a belief system that sees wide-spread violent retribution against innocents as reasoned.

The Knock-Out Game was part of this.

I think you have seen evidence of these kids being impacted by the President and others.

I do not include Barkley or Cosby in this thought though, although I do think bad role models impact society.


50 posted on 04/07/2015 5:14:41 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (The question is Jeb Bush. The answer is NO!)
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To: ansel12

Could be, but from my perspective only about 10% as silly as your response and continued haranguing over my first post and subsequent posts.


51 posted on 04/07/2015 5:15:57 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (The question is Jeb Bush. The answer is NO!)
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To: gogeo

I don’t participate on every Cosby thread, so that is wrong, and if the topic doesn’t interest you, why do you show up to defend this liberal serial rapist?

And since when is a discussion forum a court of law where we can’t discuss Cosby, Clinton, OJ Simpson, Ted Kennedy, and Michael Jackson, and all the other celebrities and politician’s obvious but unproven guilt?


52 posted on 04/07/2015 5:16:06 PM PDT by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: ansel12

3,500,000,000 / 35 = 100,000,000. I guess you didn’t do so well in math.

I didn’t think it was a conspiracy, that’s why I used quotes. I guess you didn’t do so well in English.

What I’m saying is that it is POSSIBLE this is someone getting screwed for their wealth. I guess you didn’t do so well in philosophy.


53 posted on 04/07/2015 5:16:50 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: Born to Conserve

I have no idea what numbers you are using for the American population, but your conspiracy theory is absurd.

This would be a massive and complex and many years running conspiracy, and Cosby would simply destroy the women’s credibility and timelines and claimed locations around the nation and claimed list of homes and restaurants and hotels, and public events, and all of his friends and co-workers would be rallying around him telling us how this would be impossible because it doesn’t fit his reputation among them, and Cosby would not have settled out of court in 2006 for drugging and raping a woman when she brought forth 13 more Jane Doe victims.


54 posted on 04/07/2015 5:22:41 PM PDT by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: SteveH

Yet another lying slattern

/s


55 posted on 04/07/2015 5:38:19 PM PDT by wardaddy (Dems hate western civilization and GOP are cowards...We are headed to a dark place)
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To: DoughtyOne

Opening your mouth is not necessarily presidential, black, nor urban. All people harp on about all sorts of stuff. Accosting white people is not presidential. As many bad things as we can say about Obama, while he may condone these acts in his heart, he cannot do so in public and he is never of the character to engage in such acts. As reprehensible as the knock out game is, it requires a certain amount of masculinity, however primal, that Obama simply doesn’t possess.

I do not think doing what we believe the Sharptons, Jacksons and Obamas want is acting like them. That is simply being somebody’s toady. These fools actually thought things would change when Obama was elected. They cannot see that they are useful fools. Being a useful fool is not imitating nor emulating the one in charge. Obama’s election had no impact on their lives. I think the only impact they have is their usefulness to Obama in what the press can make of them. Obama wants nothing to do with these fools. For all his rhetoric of Trayvon is my son, he wants nothing to do with those people. Even if we believe he is a closet Muslim, he would be terrified to even meet one of those guys that hacksaws people’s heads off. None of these people truly believe in equality or redistribution of income. They do not want to be on par with everyone else or anyone to be on par with them. They simply recognize a certain social group’s usefulness to amass power and fortune. Your immediate neighbor with whom you are relatively equal holds little if any power or influence over you.

To these fools, the local gang leader is the most influential and power figure in their lives and that is who they would like to emulate, never recognizing the arbitrary inequality or discrimination the local dictator seeks to exercise. They do not want to be a president or industry producer. They haven’t a clue what that is or what that entails. They simply wish to bash heads at the behest of certain individuals they have been fooled into believing have their interest at heart and are unable to see have done nothing for them. To do anything to truly change the circumstances certain lower socio-economic groups are in would cause certain leaders to lose their power base. That cannot happen if you wish to remain in power and influential.


56 posted on 04/07/2015 6:16:56 PM PDT by rey
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To: ansel12

Not a conspiracy. 7 billion on Earth, dived by two.

You are an idiot.


57 posted on 04/07/2015 6:32:57 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: rey

I agree that Obama wouldn’t come right out and say, “Go beat up Whites because of how you have been treated.” He could say, “I understand how frustrated you are. It is reasonable to be frustrated. I can understand that.”

What is the net result of this? Perhaps it wasn’t an intentional suggestion to seek retribution. It none the less gives a basis for it. If you’re frustrated and the president says that is reasoned, is that not an admission that they have been treated unfairly? Is that not a reason to justify acting out?

Yes we’re talking about people who are borderline already, but this next step was to be expected. Still Obama made unfortunate comments that fed into this mindset.

Perhaps he actually saw himself as a peacemaker, although I doubt that, he still exerted influence from the highest office in the land. Has he come out and said the Knock Out Game and the Racial attacks in Chicago were unacceptable?

I don’t necessarily object to the comments you’ve made.

It is true that Blacks have not been helped by this guy. If anything they have been set back several decades by him. Unemployment, racial equality (at least in perception), Obama has infuriated people on both sides.

Say what you want about the guy trying to be even-handed, he has been a massive divider, and nothing whatsoever of a uniter.


58 posted on 04/07/2015 6:42:26 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (The question is Jeb Bush. The answer is NO!)
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To: Born to Conserve

Yes you claimed conspiracy, that all these years and people involved are involved in a scam, and this is about Cosby in America, not the entire world and all of the world’s nations and women.

Your thinking to explain it away is bizarre.


59 posted on 04/07/2015 6:53:58 PM PDT by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: SteveH

Hick-a-buurrrr!


60 posted on 04/07/2015 6:59:15 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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