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Oklahoma House votes to do away with state marriage licenses
Tulsa World ^ | March 11, 2015 | RANDY KREHBIEL

Posted on 04/03/2015 4:27:24 AM PDT by concernedcitizen76

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To: Alberta's Child; kalee
Keep in mind that a marriage license only exists in a culture with a written language, so there are plenty of perfectly valid marriages all over the world that have no “legal” recognition.

Kalee, now he wants to talk about slaves and whether the Sioux kept written records.

See how they play the game as they push polygamy and the end of marriage?

121 posted on 04/03/2015 5:11:42 PM PDT by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: Alberta's Child

Those statutes have always and continuously been maintained and updated, and are still there, because they are necessary, and completely current and relevant.

But thanks for the bile about America and our fighting men, who actually tend to have that “Christian world view” that you imply they don’t have, they also have self respect.

You would deprive them of what they need to maintain and protect their families, by either taking it all away from them, or making it so overburdened with polygamy and personal relationships that it couldn’t work.


122 posted on 04/03/2015 5:17:24 PM PDT by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: kalee

Not to mention God would witness it.


123 posted on 04/03/2015 5:22:02 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: ansel12
Those statutes have always and continuously been maintained and updated, and are still there, because they are necessary, and completely current and relevant.

Oh, yeah -- they're being "maintained and updated," all right. Now they provide the same legal recognition to married couples and sodomites.

You would deprive them of what they need to maintain and protect their families, by either taking it all away from them, or making it so overburdened with polygamy and personal relationships that it couldn’t work.

No, I would just tell them to find something else to do and keep themselves from being subject to the legal dictates of a pagan government on this particular matter.

124 posted on 04/03/2015 5:23:10 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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To: Alberta's Child

Did you hate your own military service so much? Do you hate
America so much? You speak of the military and of America with such disgust, as you speak against the necessary benefits for their families.

You want to legitimize Muslim polygamy and gay marriage, yet strip family protections for our fighting men.

Our men cannot fight and serve overseas, and face death, without knowing that their families will be taken care of and protected, especially when they all live on bases overseas, and that goes for other federal employees, and why should we let immigrants define their relationships for us, without us having our own standards and definitions?


125 posted on 04/03/2015 5:32:56 PM PDT by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: ansel12

bump


126 posted on 04/03/2015 5:34:10 PM PDT by GeronL (CLEARLY CRUZ 2016)
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To: ansel12
Maybe our men shouldn't be fighting overseas anyway ... especially in military campaigns aimed at promoting secularization, destroying Christian communities, and propping up corrupt Islamic governments.

Let's bring them all home and defend our own borders.

You're fighting a political/moral battle that was lost a long time ago.

You want to legitimize Muslim polygamy and gay marriage, yet strip family protections for our fighting men.

You can go into any inner city in this country and find "polygamy" thriving -- even subsidized by the same government that you think has any interest in providing "family protections for our fighting men."

And I have no interest in legitimizing "gay marriage" at all. I challenge you to find a single post anywhere here on FreeRepublic* where I've suggested that homosexuals should have any right to get married.

* That's 82 threads and 55,480 replies over the course of 15+ years, if you're interested in doing the research.

127 posted on 04/03/2015 5:41:51 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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To: Alberta's Child

Your true colors are coming out, and as far as gay marriage and Islamic and Mormon polygamy, you support them by wanting their churches to decide what a marriage is.

Satanists have churches also, anyone can start a religion or a church.

And if your crazy fantasies happened, they would all have claim to the title of military spouse(s), and even (spousesssss).


128 posted on 04/03/2015 5:49:22 PM PDT by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: ansel12
Your true colors are coming out, and as far as gay marriage and Islamic and Mormon polygamy, you support them by wanting their churches to decide what a marriage is.

Legally, their churches can already pretty much decide what a "marriage" is.

Marriage is a sacred covenant before God, between one man and one woman. Nothing a Muslim or a Mormon says ... and nothing the U.S. Supreme Court or any other branch of the U.S. government says ... can change that. By implementing legal changes to the definition of marriage that have placed the U.S. on the same level as Sodom and Gomorrah, the U.S. government has lost any moral authority to have say in the matter.

Hence, my desire to have governments just get the hell out of the business of marriage entirely.

129 posted on 04/03/2015 5:58:31 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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To: Alberta's Child

Hence your desire to have Muslims, satanists, and Mormons and gays and every cult and religion there is, decide what marriage in America is.

At the federal level that would of course mean they are also legitimate for the military and in immigration and federal employment, and in dealings in foreign policy.

Why do you waste so much time on such mindless and impossible fantasies anyway? Are you a libertarian?


130 posted on 04/03/2015 6:04:56 PM PDT by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: ansel12
Gibberish. A libertarian lie covered by claiming it in the name of “God”. It is sure interesting how holy and how you start saying “God” over and over as you fight Christians and social conservatives. Right now Muslim marriage is illegal, we want to end gay marriage, not make it and polygamy legal as you are proposing in this diversion effort. A Navy SEAL does not get to decide on his own who we will house with him on base and protect and school and treat medically, and who will receive a widow’s pension, as terrorists hunt his wife and kids, he cannot just tell us who is on his list of dependents with us not having such things defined.

"Gibberish?" You fling more histrionic insults than a liberal.

And - As I said, those things would be defined very clearly, just as they are now. And if you don't think that Navy SEAL can say who is, and who is not, his family - but instead must apply to some bureaucrat for inspection, so that that bureaucrat can check his wife out, and check his children out, and decide - or not - to make a checkmark on a form as to whether he, as a bureaucrat, will ALLOW this Navy SEAL to HAVE his wife and children AS his wife and children, then you deserve nothing but ridicule. Even better, I hereby nominate YOU to be the bureaucrat to tell a Navy SEAL you intend to inspect his wife to decide whether you will allow her to exist AS his wife. I'd PAY to watch what that Navy SEAL does to you for that! LOL!

You want to see a country extremely experienced in having the government "legalize" religions? Go to China. they're really, really good at it. Just tell them your religion, and they will tell you exactly how legal or illegal it is.

The founders of this country put their faith in God, and invoked God as the source of all rights, above the government, and above the reach of the government. Yet you mock this invocation of God as "libertarian."

You are not describing an America I recognize, friend.

I do recognize it, though.

Historically, however, it hasn't been called "America."

And I pray to GOD it never is.

131 posted on 04/03/2015 6:40:49 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: ansel12
I really don't give a crap if a Muslim wants to have four "wives," a Mormon wants to have 17 "wives," or some dude wants to call three men and 11 pigs his "spouses." As long as none of these people cost the taxpayer any money, there's really no reason to bother them.

Most pathological behavior like this would disappear if there was no taxpayer-funded largesse to support them.

132 posted on 04/03/2015 6:59:19 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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To: Talisker
And if you don't think that Navy SEAL can say who is, and who is not, his family - but instead must apply to some bureaucrat for inspection, so that that bureaucrat can check his wife out, and check his children out, and decide - or not - to make a checkmark on a form as to whether he, as a bureaucrat, will ALLOW this Navy SEAL to HAVE his wife and children AS his wife and children, then you deserve nothing but ridicule.

How nutty are you? Have you ever been in the military?

Of course the military decides who is approved for your financial and housing claims. Do you think we just go up and tell them to give us our married and family benefits housing, schooling, medical care, etc, and they just rubber stamp it?

133 posted on 04/03/2015 7:05:50 PM PDT by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: Alberta's Child

Well, we conservatives care, and in the real world, there is no removing marriage and families from law and work and employment and military service, immigration, etc.

So quit wasting everyone’s time on these wild personal fantasies and dream world scenarios.


134 posted on 04/03/2015 7:08:17 PM PDT by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

I know that, I was responding to the person who wondered what a couple would do if they moved elsewhere and needed documentation. :)


135 posted on 04/03/2015 7:27:31 PM PDT by kalee
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To: ansel12
I'll stack my conservative credentials up against anyone else on this site. In the "real world," governments in this country have spent the last 60-70 years completely shredding the institution of marriage from top to bottom. I'm surprised to find some people here on FreeRepublic who still haven't figured that out.

If you really cared about marriage and families, you'd move heaven and earth to get the government as far away from the institution of marriage as possible.

136 posted on 04/03/2015 7:28:21 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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To: Alberta's Child

And you just want to shred it even worse, in fact, totally destroy it, your dislike for marriage is almost as intense as your dislike for our military and our nation.

If you cared about marriage and families, you would help us defeat gay marriage, not create polygamy and remove all standards entirely, and let any religion and cults introduce their concepts of “marriage” into our culture and our society, and you sure wouldn’t be seeking to take away the families of our military men and end marriage and family in the military.


137 posted on 04/03/2015 7:34:02 PM PDT by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: ansel12
It's OK ... I'm starting to get the picture here.

You come from a military family where you needed Caesar to look out for you, so you're perfectly fine accepting Caesar in place of God as the authority on these matters.

When Caesar sends your family member(s) to defend Sodom and Gomorrah, maybe you'll figure it out.

138 posted on 04/03/2015 7:42:32 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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To: Alberta's Child

Wow, you really are deeply anti-military, and with a goofy imagination.

What kind of military family do you think I come from?

Have you ever served in the military?


139 posted on 04/03/2015 7:46:35 PM PDT by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: ansel12
I have no idea what kind of military family you might come from. I'm assuming this is the case because of the messages you've posted here.

No, I've never served in the military. The thought of getting sent halfway around the world to fight a war in some Third World sh!t-hole just because some @sshole in Washington thought it was a good idea never appealed to me.

140 posted on 04/03/2015 7:50:30 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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