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The poor are treated like criminals everywhere, even at the grocery store
Washington Post ^ | 4-1-15 | Jeanine Grant Lister

Posted on 04/02/2015 5:37:09 PM PDT by dynachrome

Anger toward those living below the poverty line seems to only be increasing. Maine and Missouri have proposed bills limiting residents’ food choices if they use SNAP. Missouri House Bill 813 would bar the state’s 930,000 food stamp recipients from using their benefits to buy cookies, chips, soda, energy drinks, steak and seafood. (The legislature also implemented mandatory drug testing for TANF applicants in 2011.) If the bill becomes law, a Missourian can’t buy a can of tuna with an EBT card. Tortilla chips to go with salsa? Nope. Flank steak — tough, stringy and the only cut of beef I can afford — is off-limits, too. Who are these people, and what makes them think that what we eat is their business? And given that the average food stamp allotment in my state in 2013 came out to just $1.41 per person per meal, I wonder if they understand that recipients couldn’t buy lobster if they wanted to.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; US: Maine; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: blackkk; ebt; foodstamps; jeaninegrantlister; maine; missouri; snap; tanf; washingtoncompost; washingtonpost
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To: goldstategop

Free will offerings are not the same as coerced part-time slavery.


41 posted on 04/02/2015 5:56:22 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: dynachrome

You touched on the major problem.

Those cards are abused all the time, and the checkers get nothing but grief when they try to keep people honest.

I’ve been in line behind some of those people, and invariably the ones I’ve been behind always have a problem and hold the line up.

After a while the checkers cringe to see another EBT card customer headed toward them. Who could blame them?

Out here we have a problem with people who are well to do, hiding any evidence of wealth with their adult children. Then they get government services although they live in a massive home, have a relatively new expensive vehicle, and gold chains hanging off their body.

Then these folks get almost violently angry when they are asked for co-pays or the like at healthcare agencies.

If people are courteous, generally they are cut some slack. If not, it’s human nature to be angry at them.

I have personally witnessed three insidents.

1. Person tries to use the EBT card for forbidden items. They throw a temper tantrum and this holds the line up. Everyone wants to ring their neck.

2. Guy and his wife come to a hospital pharmacy. He’s wearing gold chains, an expensive gold watch, and an expensive suit. She’s dressed to the nines. They are asked to pay a $10 co-pay on a prescription and he goes nuclear. Can’t get the meds unless he forks over, so he pulls out a roll of cash about 1.5 inches thick. He pays trashing the person serving him relentlessly, as if it’s her policy.

3. It’s a junior college and I want to take some classes. I’ve registered and the lady at the counter was very nice. Just in front of my inline is a young kid dressed rather well. His fees are $25.00 and all he’ll say to her is one word, meaning he wants the state to pay for it. He gets his way. The lady looks at me like, can you believe this idiot. She never says a negative word, and just our eyes meeting told me volumes.

We’re being had, and have been for decades.


42 posted on 04/02/2015 5:57:08 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (The question is Jeb Bush. The answer is NO!)
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To: Iron Munro

Keep on whining.

I don’t see you demand anything be done about the Obaconomy.

If you have complaints, don’t direct them at those who can’t change things.


43 posted on 04/02/2015 5:57:21 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

Forcing someone to give is wrong. I voluntary give to some charitable organizations that I believe do the best. Others are not charities in that they do not take any gov’t. funds, but still do good, IMHO.


44 posted on 04/02/2015 5:58:05 PM PDT by dynachrome (Government can't give us anything that it doesn't first take away)
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To: kaila

The price of flank steak relative to other cuts has risen. It’s no longer cheap.


45 posted on 04/02/2015 5:58:16 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: DoughtyOne

Sure, there are are a small number of people whose abuse government benefits.

That’s not every one in the country and don’t make assumptions about how someone lives until you’re in their shoes.


46 posted on 04/02/2015 5:59:16 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

Abuse of govt benes is large, widespread and starts with Bammy and many Congresscritters.....


47 posted on 04/02/2015 6:01:51 PM PDT by Paladin2
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If it was up to me, I would have the greatest of scientists develop a paste that contains all essential vitamins, proteins, and minerals, and make it 100% free to anybody who needs it. Nothing more, nothing less


48 posted on 04/02/2015 6:02:41 PM PDT by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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To: dynachrome

Charities can’t do all the work.

We no longer have extended families like we did in the 19th Century.

And progress has eliminated many manual labor jobs that are now done by machine and the rest has been outsourced abroad.

What we need to do is grow our economy and so many regulations, barriers and taxes stand in the way of it.

Yeah its easy and really brave of politicians to pick on people who don’t have well-heeled lobbyists to line their pockets.


49 posted on 04/02/2015 6:03:16 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: dynachrome

The other day a young girl (early 20s) in front of me was dripping in jewelry (probably just costume) talking on a smartphone and paying for her food with an EBT card. I didn’t say anything but I did notice other people looking askance at her.


50 posted on 04/02/2015 6:03:42 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: dynachrome
since it so good for the chilins, make-em eat Mooch's school lunch three times a day, THEN listen to-em whine...
51 posted on 04/02/2015 6:05:06 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: dynachrome

That's all.

52 posted on 04/02/2015 6:05:58 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: dynachrome

Agreed with you about the Sally Ann. However, if my memory serves me properly they’ve also been subjected to anti-homophobic witchhunts so commonplace today.


53 posted on 04/02/2015 6:06:39 PM PDT by OttawaFreeper ("Keeping your stick down used to be a commandment, but not anymore" Harry Sinden, 1988)
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To: dsrtsage

Soylent Green.


54 posted on 04/02/2015 6:08:02 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: goldstategop

I appreciate you trying to play the devil’s advocate here, but I’ve seen too much of this to look the other way as you seem to want to do.

That guy I mentioned that wouldn’t pay his co-pay..., I later learned he got in a year old Mercedes worth about $80,000.00 to drive away.

Don’t lecture me about things you don’t have any insight on.

This is a known problem in our area, that after hundreds of stories just like the one I told you, it’s reasoned to address the problem for what it is.

One ethnic group in my area with retirement age people in the home, are always on Medicare and Medical. They are referred to as medi-medi people, and the insurance people in the area recognize them immediately and realize it’s wasted time to talk to them about insurance. That’s any kind of insurance, health related or other.

If you do go to their homes, they have great homes I couldn’t afford. Again, new cars in the driveway. Nice belongings in the home.

To a household, this is the exact situation over and over. They don’t pay their own way. I can guarantee it.

Certain areas and the names are a real clue, you just don’t even bother to contact these people.

It’s unfortunate, but it’s the truth.


55 posted on 04/02/2015 6:09:10 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (The question is Jeb Bush. The answer is NO!)
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To: dynachrome

So I guess they get to eat like the rest of us ( except for the Tuna fish part).


56 posted on 04/02/2015 6:11:17 PM PDT by VTenigma (The Democratic party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: Old Yeller
The way they use their EBT cards is criminal.

My wife works at a grocery store. She estimates that 1/3 of EBT users are fraudulent. Getting into $30k cars, smartphones, etc. Although these could be people that EBT cards were sold to.

57 posted on 04/02/2015 6:15:17 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Paladin2
Her choice of flank steak shows how out of touch she is. As you and others have mentioned, flank steak is not an inexpensive piece of meat (last week I paid about $8 / pound for Australian beef, US is a about a dollar a pound more), nor is it stringy unless you cut with the grain. For us, it's a treat.

I get whole boneless shells at Costco for less than 7 per pound and cut them up, that's cheaper then flank steaks by far. Heck, hamburger, even the really low fat mixes is much cheaper than flank steak.

58 posted on 04/02/2015 6:17:08 PM PDT by par4
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To: goldstategop

I am getting really tired of the “disability ‘ inflation that we now have in this country. I suspect she has a stupid disability diagnosis, being as she did not mention what it was in her tirade. I am sure if she had a real disability, like cancer or MS, she would have used it in her commentary to give herself more gravitas. And why does she need prescription sleeping medication?
Secondly, I grew up with mac and cheese, hamburger helper, and tuna helper. Steak was chuck steak on Sundays. My dad used lots of meat tenderizer, and we ate it.
Now this lady is complaining of not being able to get flank steak?
Go get some hamburger helper, and eat within your means. Dont like it? Get a part time job to pay for your meals.


59 posted on 04/02/2015 6:19:27 PM PDT by kaila
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To: goldstategop

“Why all the anger? Poor people don’t break the law, curse or spit on those who help them. There seems to be more anger at them than at rich people who get away with it.”

My God man, what a reasonable and compassionate take on this issue. It clearly has no place on this thread. Don’t you realize poor people are lowly cretins who only deserve day-old bread and commodity cheese?


60 posted on 04/02/2015 6:20:34 PM PDT by HoosierDammit ("I wonder how I came to be the know-it-all I am, and how the world ever got used to me." Clint Black)
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