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New religious liberty laws? How about you just follow your constitution? (VANITY)
indiana.edu ^ | We the People

Posted on 03/31/2015 9:36:26 PM PDT by EternalVigilance

All this talk about religious liberty legislation makes me wonder why they don't simply follow their own state constitutions.

All of the state constitutions that I'm aware of read pretty much like Indiana's:

Indiana Constitution:

Article One

Section 2. All people shall be secured in the natural right to worship ALMIGHTY GOD, according to the dictates of their own consciences.

Section 3. No law shall, in any case whatever, control the free exercise and enjoyment of religious opinions, or interfere with the rights of conscience.



TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: religiousliberty; rfra
Check your own state constitution, and I'll bet you find that this is already well covered.
1 posted on 03/31/2015 9:36:26 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance

Oh stop.

They can’t read...erh, they are completely happy being conciously and purposely incompetent, for the sole purpose of mangling the white man’s engrish, to suit their ends.


2 posted on 03/31/2015 9:43:43 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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3 posted on 03/31/2015 10:05:17 PM PDT by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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4 posted on 03/31/2015 10:07:32 PM PDT by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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To: EternalVigilance

Excellent point, EV!
(And one I don’t hesitate to point out.)


5 posted on 03/31/2015 10:19:40 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Here’s the problem. Jurisdiction is generally vested in an administrative “Civil Rights Commission.” This is who goes after the florist or photographer who refuses to participate in a homosexual wedding.

The power of these commissions is generally limited to enforcing the anti-discrimination statutes. Here is the kicker. Most of them are BARRED from considering First Amendment or State constitution defenses to the claims, on the ground that they lack jurisdiction and those defenses can only be asserted in a court action.

So the “offender” is tried and convicted without the ability to raise a defense. Now ultimately, you theoretically have the right to go to court after the commission has held you liable, but that can be years after they first go after you, and in the meantime, you have lost your business and have paid a fortune to lawyers to defend you. Plus, once you take it to court you are faced with a whole body of law that says the courts are generally supposed to defer to administrative rulings.


6 posted on 03/31/2015 10:30:11 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: GraceG

The Act was amended in 2003 to only include the federal government and its entities, such as Puerto Rico and the District of Columbia. A number of states have passed state RFRAs, applying the rule to the laws of their own state, but the Smith case remains the authority in these matters in many states.


7 posted on 03/31/2015 10:37:29 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: GraceG

As it turns out, there are 21 others states that have RFRA’s.

Have college coaches been precluded from visiting those states?


8 posted on 03/31/2015 10:41:05 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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