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Unfortunately in Cruz's mind STEM jobs are classified along with picking fruit as supposedly jobs Americans won't do. To paraphrase Obama's famous lie, If you like your STEM job earning middle class and above wages, you can keep your STEM job. Under Cruz's proposal what happened to the US STEM workers at Southern California Edison will happen everywhere. Is there one GOP candidate who will defend American workers?????
1 posted on 03/24/2015 12:18:36 PM PDT by C19fan
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That’s a deal breaker for me.


2 posted on 03/24/2015 12:21:07 PM PDT by glorgau
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Hillary cheers you on, I’m sure. So does Jebbie.


5 posted on 03/24/2015 12:26:21 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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Let me know when you all find the perfect candidate...


8 posted on 03/24/2015 12:33:13 PM PDT by kosciusko51
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There are so many American engineers and computer programmers out of work, some can’t even get interviews...while the big corporations continue to import hundreds of thousands of new workers from communist China (mostly), India (programming) and other countries.

This has been a problem for American workers for a long time.
As much as we (here at this keyboard) are in favor of allowing for legal immigration, we ARE in a deep deep recession ... and if the American people have ANY importance, any say, any rights at all ... WE are entitled to those few jobs which haven’t been exported .... or ended due to Obamacare and regulatory costs, etc.

Let Americans get back to work. THEN let some foreign workers in, fine and dandy. Don’t keep Americans unemployed while importing so many aliens to take our jobs away from us.


9 posted on 03/24/2015 12:34:10 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (Foolish people ... have eyes and see not)
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Did not know this. Thanks.


10 posted on 03/24/2015 12:34:41 PM PDT by Faith65 (Isaiah 40:31)
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I like Ted a lot but the Wisconsin governor has executive experience, which sadly we have learned is critical to the chief executive.


16 posted on 03/24/2015 12:38:57 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi (NOPe to GOPe)
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I encourage everyone to not be reactive when hearing stories about Ted Cruz. The bad guys are going to do their best to destroy him ... and leave us with Jeb.

Disregard this column and read the facts from Ted’s site:

http://www.cruz.senate.gov/?p=press_release&id=137

I am generally opposed to facilitating more jobs for non-Americans, at the expense of Americans. That said, read the press release on Ted Cruz’s site with a level head.


23 posted on 03/24/2015 12:53:30 PM PDT by Theo (May Christ be exalted above all.)
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Increasing the supply with new highly talented labor decreases the price of existing highly talented labor. That’s a pay cut for people currently working in these fields.

However, when the whole economy has many more highly talented people, more total value is created in America, rather than offshored to (say) India. That means capital creation, new business startups, and spin-off jobs in America. That is an increase in the wages and decrease in the costs for everyone else in America.

So, the proposal is a mixed bag. To which group do you belong? The group immediately affected by a pay cut, or the group generally benefitted by having a large talented labor pool HERE rather than THERE?

I’m in the former group. So I’m harmed.

But let’s be clear, America can benefit. People will have policy preferences accordingly.

Play Ball!


24 posted on 03/24/2015 12:55:19 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Support Principle: http://www.tedcruz.org)
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It did not take long for Ted to stick his foot in his mouth. This is a deal breaker. He lost ten points with this statement.


25 posted on 03/24/2015 12:56:37 PM PDT by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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Cruz doesn't support H1-B visas, BTW.

If he did, he could have signed on to the recently introduced H1-B Visa Immigration Innovation (“I-Squared”) bill, introduced by Sens. Orrin Hatch (R-UT), Jeff Flake (R-AZ), Marco Rubio (R-FL), Amy Klobuchar (D-MN), Chris Coons (D-DE), and Richard Blumenthal (D-CT). If he was for an increase in the H1-B visas, he would have done so, he did not.

Hatch, Rubio, Flake Co-Sponsor Bill to Increase H-1B Guest-Worker Visas

NOW WHAT ABOUT BLUE DOG REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR, SCOTT WALKER, HEADLINING THE CHAMBER OF AMNESTY IN ARIZONA?

You know, the same Arizona Chamber of Commerce that was pimping the Gang of 8's amnesty bill not too long ago. (Ahem).

27 posted on 03/24/2015 1:02:26 PM PDT by WIBamian (Cruz for President. Alabama Senator Jeff Sessions for Vice-President. True conservative heroes!)
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http://www.cruz.senate.gov/?p=press_release&id=137
Cruz’s official press release on his amendment.
US STEM workers are not going to like it.

Maybe he’s learned better.


30 posted on 03/24/2015 1:11:30 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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From the article:

Cruz cited a study by the American Enterprise Institute, which argued that visa workers create jobs.

You may disagree with the study,(would be good to read it first), but you ought not doubt the patriotism of Ted.

31 posted on 03/24/2015 1:12:13 PM PDT by DaveyB (Live free or die!)
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One of the few issues where I disagree with him. Hopefully Congress can block it. And it’ll probably be an issue on the campaign trail.


34 posted on 03/24/2015 1:13:30 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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I am a staunch conservative and I do not have any problem with LEGAL immigration. If people want to come here and work that’s okay but it has to be limited and controlled.

I work in healthcare and it used to be impossible to get nurses. Unions were doing their best to keep the supply down and putting pressure to increase demand ( higher wages). This eventually led to some hospitals sending their own representative to the Philippines to recruit nurses.

interfering with either supply or demand always has unseen consequences.


36 posted on 03/24/2015 1:17:34 PM PDT by dirtymac
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The real lie in that article is that CRUZ is proposing no such thing. This amendment, like the comprehensive immigration bill, is from the LAST CONGRESS, and it has been dead since early in the Congress.

Also, even the description of the amendment is not exactly accurate. Any increase in H-1B by Cruz’s amendment would have been based on a verified shortage.

Now, how important is the point that the amendment didn’t get anywhere because the comprehensive immigration bill didn’t get anywhere and is now dead?

Cruz’s amendment would have (1) made ANY KIND of path to citizenship absolutely forbidden for any illegal alien. (2) Would have controlled the LEGAL system with specific quotas and costs. Small business visas would have required a million dollars. Others would have required a visa holder already to have a research position in a university or industry on a legal basis, and the tech visa would have been allowed only in a time of shortage.

All of this is MOOT, of course, because the comprehensive bill is dead in the water....as a result of killer amendments such as Cruz’s.

So, he was doing strategic killing of a bad bill, but this is presented as if it’s an active proposal. It happened in 2013...2 years ago. It is dead.

Cruz is PROPOSING no such thing.


63 posted on 03/24/2015 3:50:06 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It -- Those Who Truly Support Our Troops Pray for Their Victory!)
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Coincidentally, today Rush is talking about pretty much this same thing!

Rush: But one thing I’ve noticed is that this quest — in some cases it’s a quest; in other cases, another reason for it — this quest for perfection that seems to possess or obsess many conservative groups leads them to nitpick and find a single issue or maybe two that conservative candidate X is supposedly wrong on, and they immediately launch into criticism. And when conservatives launch criticism of conservative candidates, the media just eats it up. They just love it, and they glom onto it, and they amplify it even more than their own criticism.


67 posted on 03/24/2015 4:04:08 PM PDT by saleman (?)
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Has Cruz said this recently? Has he been asked to explain it? I’d like to hear what he has to say about it first before writting him off, as you have.


78 posted on 03/24/2015 4:51:46 PM PDT by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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Easy solution - charge $25,000 for these visas. See how it shakes it then.


93 posted on 03/25/2015 10:09:10 AM PDT by Plummz (pro-constitution, anti-corruption)
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You are upsetting the sheep ! LOLO


94 posted on 03/25/2015 10:11:58 AM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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From the article:

"Cruz is part of large group of politicians who will not acknowledge the H-1B's visas use in offshore outsourcing or the reality of U.S. workers who are forced to train their visa-holding replacements. In defending this H-1B increase, Cruz cited a study by the American Enterprise Institute, which argued that visa workers create jobs. This organization primarily represents the views of large companies and asset management firms."

96 posted on 03/25/2015 10:17:46 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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