Posted on 03/18/2015 9:40:54 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker has run into a little bit of trouble on immigration again, this time forcing a communications aide off his staff after Democrats pushed out old tweets from the aide disparaging Rep. Steve King (R-IA), a well-known opponent of amnesty.
"In other news, I see Iowa is once again embarrassing itself, and the GOP, this morning. Thanks, guys," the aide, Liz Mair tweeted, referring to King's January 24th Iowa Freedom Summit where Walker, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX), Carly Fiorina, and other possible Republican presidential candidates spoke.
Walker's troubles with immigration began in January when opponents began circulating prior statements of his showing that Walker has endorsed both a "path to citizenship" generally and the Senate's Gang of 8 bill specifically.
Walker has since tried to walk those positions back, telling Fox News Sunday's Chris Wallace on March 1st, "My view has changed, I’m flat-out saying it. Candidates can say that, sometimes they don’t."
And Walker's view on immigration has changed. Here he is on immigration in July of 2013: "You hear some people talk about border security and a wall and all that. To me, I don't know that you need any of that if you had a better, saner way to let people into the country in the first place."
And here is Walker in March 2015: "I've talked to people all across America. And the concerns I have is that we need to secure the border. We ultimately need to put in place a system that works. A legal immigration system that works. And part of doing this is put the onus on employers, getting them E-Verify and tools to do that."
So Walker has shifted from believing a secure border wasn't really necessary to now believing that it is.
But what about those illegal immigrants already here? What is Walker's position on that? Again, from March 1st:
WALLACE: The question was, can you envision a world where if these people paid a penalty, that they would have a path to citizenship? And you said, sure, that makes sense.
WALKER: I believe there's a way that you can do that. First and foremost, you've got to secure that border or none of these plans make any sense.
(emphasis added) Notice the present tense. Walker still believes that illegal immigrants currently in the United States should be given a path to citizenship, but only if you secure the border first, which is a not uncommon Republican position on immigration.
But how is it any different than Jeb Bush's position?
Here is Jeb from March 13:
It’s easy to say, ‘Well, anything you propose is amnesty,’ but that’s not a plan. That’s a sentiment, that’s not a plan. I think the best plan, the most realistic plan, the grown up plan, if you will, is once you control the border and you’re confident it’s not going to be another magnet, is to say, ‘Let’s let these folks achieve earned legal status where they work, where they come out of the shadows.’”
So both Walker and Bush believe we should "secure"/"control" the border first (whatever that means), and then, only after that is accomplished, can we give legal status/citizenship to illegal immigrants currently in the United States.
If there is any difference between Walker and Bush on immigration, I do not see it.
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” Notice the present tense. Walker still believes that illegal immigrants currently in the United States should be given a path to citizenship, but only if you secure the border first, which is a not uncommon Republican position on immigration. “
“Secure the border first” is and has been the fool-the-rubes position of the GOP establishment. Hannity has been giving them cover with this phrase since the last election.
“Secure the border first” is designed to sound like it does something. What it does is freeze the current situation in place. So it does absolutely nothing to help an illegal alien occupied state like California.
Our huge problem remains in place unless and until there is deportation- which happens to be what enforcing our immigration law will do if GOP and Democrat politicians will stop subverting the law.
Jeff Sessions is the only Senator that I know of who actually puts the interests of Americans ahead of trespassing foreign nationals. And Sessions isn’t running for anything so we know he means it. We should compare the position of candidates wanting to be President to that of Jeff Sessions.
Walker is now covering his tracks. He has a long record of advocating amnesty and amnesty-lite. It is all too clear that he is changing his tune to try to fool primary voters. No thanks.
This is 2015, not 1955. Mass deportation of all illegals is untenable politically, which I’m sure everyone here, you included, knows. Beating up on any candidate or government official because they won’t do something which is culturally and politically impossible is futile. Do you and I wish it were possible? Of course. Is it under current conditions? No. After the revolution/civil war? Possible. LOL
Your just going to screw us again.....you ruined 2012 with your selfishness about Santorum and now you are doing the same with Walker.......What a jerk! If Hillary is elected it is ALL YOUR FAULT!
“God you Hillary lovers kill me. Why not just tell us that you are a liberal democrat. At least you would be honest for once in your life.”
I have a better idea. Why don’t you knock off the cheap insults aimed at a freeper with a far longer and better record here than yours?
lol...Thanks for that bit of humor.
BTW, I think Hillary should be canceling her hotel/auditorium rentals for any future campaigns she might be considering.
Here are the things we have in Wisconsin:
Concealed Carry
Lowered Taxes
A reined in DNR
A voter ID law
No mass transit
A dedicated highway fund (dems were using for a slush fund)
A reined in university system
A government that no longer collects dues for the union
Right to Work
A renewed mining opportunity in Northern Wisconsin
No obamacare
Now tell me he isn’t a conservative. Many times I have seen
him answer off the top of his head. Yet, when confronted with a problem he digs into and deals with it conservatively.
I have voted for Walker six times and will again. He is one politician I have also financially supported and will continue to. That is how he receives most of his support.
Uhn, huh....
“WALKER: I believe there’s a way that you can do that. First and foremost, you’ve got to secure that border or none of these plans make any sense.”
That’s quite a bit different than that BushTard and what we have been demanding.
How is that position like BushHole?
None of that included the biggest issue. Protecting and securing our homeland.
Hello?
Does it bother you that Walker hired a woman who is pro abortion, pro gay marriage, and pro amnesty as his communications director?
Could you hire a person with those views if you were Walker?
Does this say anything to you about where his convictions lie?
(Jeb Bush) It’s easy to say, ‘Well, anything you propose is amnesty,’ but that’s not a plan. That’s a sentiment, that’s not a plan. I think the best plan, the most realistic plan, the grown up plan, if you will, is once you control the border and you’re confident it’s not going to be another magnet, is to say, ‘Let’s let these folks achieve earned legal status where they work, where they come out of the shadows.’”
Rubio and Bush are cheap labor importers. No real difference. Changing laws to benefit those breaking them gets us more illegal aliens, Remember we did that in 1986 and it has resulted in 10 times the number of illegal aliens.
Welcome, nOOb.
However, BushTard isn’t saying anything like:
.
“WALKER: I believe there’s a way that you can do that. First and foremost, you’ve got to secure that border or none of these plans make any sense.”
BushHole doesn’t have a pre-requisite or qualifier and locking that border down is what we want.
Read the Bush quote he put in hold type.
. Maybe it can be modified.
The only way for illegal aliens to get right with the law is to return home and apply like everyone else. Anything else is amnesty, we tried that once and it has resulted in 10 times the number of illegal aliens. No one should be rewarded for breaking the laws.
” My gut has told me for some time now, that Scott Walker is a ‘made man’ of the GOP-e. His recent flip-flops, ‘evolving’ positions, and missteps, have convinced me even further.”
Your gut is spot on!
If the GOP cannot nominate a candidate that can defeat Hillary Clinton, a garbage candidate who is utterly without talent or skill or insight or knowledge or honesty, because that candidate cannot convince the base that he or she supports Americans and American values as opposed to illegal aliens invading this country, then that is the fault of the GOP and its candidates, and no one else.
Stop behaving like an idiot. You are embarrassing yourself and your candidate.
It’s his job to convince me that I should vote for him, and he will not be able to do that by telling me that he is not her.
Mass deportation is a straw man. Real enforcement will encourage many to return the same way they got here.
” Walker is now covering his tracks. He has a long record of advocating amnesty and amnesty-lite. It is all too clear that he is changing his tune to try to fool primary voters. No thanks.”
Yep
Big differences:
Bush
1. Border: Secure it (unspecific)
2. Amnesty: favors
3. Illegal residents: make them citizens
4. Immigration laws: No stated position
Walker
1. Border: Build a wall
2. Amnesty: against
3. Illegal residents: penalize existing residents (unspecific)
4. Immigration laws: No stated position
Cruz
1. Border: Build a wall (in some places)
2. Amnesty: categorically against
3. Illegal residents: No stated position
4. Immigration laws: Wants tighter immigration laws.
40% of the illegal aliens in this country are foreign nationals who came here on legal visas and never returned.
“Securing the border” does nothing to prevent this abuse, and the open borders politicians spouting this phrase know it. Deportation is the only policy that cures this abuse and discourages more of it.
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