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Medical Tyranny in Action in Oregon
Health Impact News ^
| March 12, 2015
| Staff
Posted on 03/12/2015 7:10:18 AM PDT by OregonRancher
Medical Tyranny in Action in Oregon: Doctor and Senator wants Medical Freedom for herself, but Not Oregon Citizens
Health Impact News Editor Comments
As we have previously reported, the state of Oregon wants to take away the right to informed consent and vaccine choice and mandate vaccines for all children statewide. The bill was introduced by Elizabeth Steiner Hayward, a State Senator in Oregon who is also a medical doctor.
The public attended a hearing on the bill last week, and much of it was video-taped. In the clip above, attorney Robert Snee from Portland is shown addressing the Senate Committee on Health Care, which includes Hayward.
Attorney Snee begins in this clip by addressing the American Medical Associations published Code of Ethics which states physicians may claim a religious or philosophical reason not to be immunized. Snee makes the point that if physicians have the right to such exemptions, how is it legal to take that right away from citizens of the State?
Attorney Snee then quoted from an article published in the American Academy of Family Physicians featuring Oregon Senator Elizabeth Steiner Hayward, M.D. In the article, Hayward is addressing the issues she was facing with taking drugs during pregnancy. Dr. Hayward suffers from multiple sclerosis (MS), and according to the article abstained from taking her MS drugs during pregnancy because of her presumed concern over her unborn child.
After her second child was born, according to the article, she consulted with a neurologist about her options in breastfeeding her second child:
The subspecialist informed Steiner Hayward in no uncertain terms that she was going to start interferon therapy immediately and she would not be allowed to breastfeed.
But Steiner Hayward had other ideas.
Breastfeeding protects against autoimmune disorders, and I have MS, she said, laughing and shaking her head. So I did the research and told her I thought interferon was too big to get into breast milk and that I was going to go ahead and breastfeed.
She, of course, thought I was crazy and told me I was not to do that. So I went out and found another neurologist who respected the fact that I was an FP and I knew what I was talking about, and he agreed that (breastfeeding) was OK. (Source.)
At this point in his testimony, Attorney Snee was stopped by Steiner Hayward who was sitting just across from him, in a very visibly upset tone, claiming that the attorney was impugning her integrity by relaying the story from the American Academy of Family Physicians article.
She then went on to explain why she disagreed with her doctors recommendation not to take her MS drugs and continue breastfeeding, based on her own research and what she felt was best for my child. She states:
So I would be very grateful if you did not take my decision, my personal decision about my medical care out of context.
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Attorney Snee responded that he had no intention of impugning anyone, but that he was simply pointing out that the sponsor of the bill in Oregon who wanted to take away the right to informed consent on medical procedures such as vaccines made a decision to disagree with a medical treatment that affected someone else, and that her right to do so was the same right citizens were seeking to retain for themselves.
Watch the video above. This is a perfect example of medical tyranny in action in the United States of America, happening right in the legislative branch of the Oregon State government.
Elizabeth Steiner Hayward wants the right to make her own personal medical decisions for her and her children, even if means disagreeing with a medical specialist who presumably had more knowledge than her in the matter of the pharmaceutical product she was considering.
However, this medical doctor, who is also a lawmaker, does not want anyone else in Oregon to have the same freedom of choice in regards to other medical products like vaccines. This would include other doctors and medical professionals who do not share the same views on vaccines and the science behind them as does Steiner Hayward, so she wants to use the power of government to force everyone else to believe like she does.
One of the doctors in Oregon who would be forced to give some vaccines to patients that he presently does not give vaccines to, would be Paul Thomas, M.D., FAAP. Dr. Thomas is a board-certified fellow of the American Academy of Pediatrics. He also testified against SB 442 in front of the Senate Committee on Health Care in Oregon:
Comment on this article at VaccineImpact.com Next Public Hearing on Oregon Bill SB 442
There is another public hearing scheduled on SB 442 for March 9, 2015. If you would like to tell Senator Elizabeth Steiner Hayward how you feel about this bill, here is how to contact her:
Senator Elizabeth Steiner Hayward Democrat District 17 NW Portland/Beaverton Capitol Phone: 503-986-1717 Capitol Address: 900 Court St. NE, S-215, Salem, Oregon 97301 Email: Sen.ElizabethSteinerHayward@state.or.us Website: http://www.oregonlegislature.gov/steinerhayward Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SenatorElizabethSteinerHayward - See more at: http://healthimpactnews.com/2015/medical-tyranny-in-action-in-oregon-doctor-and-senator-wants-medical-freedom-for-herself-but-not-oregon-citizens/#sthash.p6PFO5ZV.dpuf
TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: hypocrisy; medicaltyranny; vaccines
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To: OregonRancher
Too many doctors and lawyers support tyranny.
To: OregonRancher
My hat goes off to Attorney Snee for doing his homework and making an excellent point and very effective presentation.
To: OregonRancher
Typical democrat:
- They know what is best for you more than you do
- The laws they make are for you and others, but not them
To: OregonRancher
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posted on
03/12/2015 7:27:03 AM PDT
by
kiryandil
(making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
To: OregonRancher
I find myself wondering if the opinions of many regarding vaccination of children would change if we were once again confronted with a polio epidemic.
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posted on
03/12/2015 7:44:00 AM PDT
by
The Duke
To: The Duke
My opinion, that people have a right to choose for themselves whether they want to vaccinate or not, would not change.
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posted on
03/12/2015 7:55:15 AM PDT
by
Roos_Girl
(The world is full of educated derelicts. - Calvin Coolidge)
To: The Duke
The problem is that it isn’t a personal choice. A child can’t make the decision.
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posted on
03/12/2015 7:58:02 AM PDT
by
AppyPappy
(If you are not part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
To: AppyPappy
More importantly, the rest of us don’t have a choice to not be exposed to disease if some woo-woo antivaxxer chooses to serve as a Petri dish.
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posted on
03/12/2015 8:26:45 AM PDT
by
Kaled
To: Kaled
All you have to do is get your vax!!!
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posted on
03/12/2015 8:34:20 AM PDT
by
T Wayne
(If you know how many guns you have, you don't have enough!!!)
To: Kaled
What is wrong with having a right to informed consent on medical procedures such as vaccines?
Why are those who question the efficacy of vaccines maligned?
Why are their characters impugned because they dare to challenge the purported “conventional wisdom” with regards to vaccines?
Why don’t their concerns about their children matter?
Why is it so damned important to inject children with a “witches brew” of vaccines at such an early age?
If vaccines are so damned effective, then those who choose to get vaccinated shouldn’t be concerned about those who aren’t, right? Look at how successful the flu vaccine “lottery” is every year.
IOW, you advocate that the state has the “right” to determine what is and is not appropriate in these instances. That parent’s rights are irrelevant, as long as you get yours.
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posted on
03/12/2015 8:35:50 AM PDT
by
SZonian
(Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
To: The Duke
Since many outbreaks of polio are currently linked to the vaccine itself, that might not be the best hypothetical card to play.
http://www.cmaj.ca/content/183/18/E1303.full.pdf
In 2005, it was reported that children in a small village in the United States had contracted vaccine-derived polio. In Nigeria, >70 cases have been reported. In 2006, ∼1600 cases of vaccine-induced polio occurred in India, according to the Indian Medical Association Sub-Committee on Immunisation's report on the Polio Eradication Initiative [3]. The point to be noted is that these cases were reported during repeated mass-immunization campaigns in which repeated doses of OPV were administered. In 2008, many cases of polio were reported in all provinces of Pakistan, where OPV is used for repeated mass-immunization campaigns. These vaccine-related cases are big challenge for the scientific community if the polio-eradication goal is to be achieved, and there is a need for prompt action to combat the issue [15]...
...The above observations suggest that OPV has lost its effectiveness in providing herd immunity. It seems that children are getting polio from OPV, and it also seems that OPV is proving to be ineffective in stopping polio transmission from another source. Therefore, the whole worldand especially developing countriesshould shift from OPV to IPV, in my opinion. There is still a need for active research in exploring various vaccine strategies for polio and to combat adverse effects associated with polio vaccination; otherwise, the dream of polio eradication will never come true [24].
http://cid.oxfordjournals.org/content/49/8/1287.full
Nineteen outbreaks of circulating vaccine-derived polio virus(cVDPV) have been documented in that same period, resulting in 536 cases in some 17 countries, the majority in Africa, Rosenbauer says. One outbreak in Nigeria has been ongoing since 2005[this is a 2011 article...my edit], with 13 new cases reported so far this year
To: Kaled
You could confine yourself to your property if you have no faith in the ability of your injection to protect you from the virus that it supposedly protects you from.
If your vaccination can't protect you from a virus that another human being is harboring, why bother with it? Would you take a pain reliever that required your neighbor to take it as well for it to be effective for you?
To: IchBinEinBerliner
The "community immunity" principle in operation:
When a critical portion of a community is immunized against a contagious disease, most members of the community are protected against that disease because there is little opportunity for an outbreak. Even those who are not eligible for certain vaccines -- such as infants, pregnant women, or immunocompromised individuals -- get some protection because the spread of contagious disease is contained. This is known as "community immunity."
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posted on
03/14/2015 1:03:47 PM PDT
by
Kaled
To: Kaled
Are you an infant, pregnant woman, or immunocompromised individual?
Further, if you are a infant you can thank a vaccine for reducing the time you have immunity provided by your mother via breast feeding.(A woman who had measles provides immunity to her baby via breastfeeding for 12-15 month. A vaccinated woman only provides immunity for 6 months).
http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/2014/06/24/measles-and-measles-vaccines-fourteen-things-to-consider-by-roman-bystrianyk-co-author-dissolving-illusions-disease-vaccines-and-the-forgotten-history/
If you are pregnant, why did you not get your vaccines as a child?
If immunocompromised, have you been so since birth? If not, then why did you not get your immunizations as an infant? Additionally, if you are immunocompromised, you are susceptible to any disease not just viruses that have a vaccine available. You should reduce your exposure to the public regardless.
If you are none of the above, aren't you just someone who wants to make other make the same medical decisions as you?
On a side note, I just got a head cold from a vaccinated petri dish(ie a person) last week. It is the first illness I have had in three years. Even the vaccinated can carry diseases.
What percentage of the populace must get vaccinated in order to provide herd immunity?
(A John Hopkins study from 1993 states between 70-95% depending upon the virus
http://www.op12no2.me/stuff/herdhis.pdf ).
Along those lines, here are excerpts from CDC reports on recent measles outbreaks. I have mostly included the numbers of vaccinated that have been infected, They would not be the at risk class indicated in herd/community immunity picture that you cited since they in fact have been vaccinated. What is the explanation for such a high rate of failure in their immunization?
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6316a6.htm?s_cid=mm6316a6_e
Eleven (19%) patients had documentation of 2 or more valid doses of measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccine, including two children and nine adults. Three health-care personnel had documentation of serologic evidence of immunity before exposure, and one additional patient was found to have serologic evidence of immunity when tested as part of a contact investigation before symptom onset.
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6322a4.htm?s_cid=mm6322a4_w
or who had an unknown vaccination status (58 [20%]); 30 (10%) were in persons who were vaccinated
Given the 90+% vaccination rate with MMR(the 20% of unknown are likely 18% vaccinated) for a grand total of 28% vaccinated getting the illness.
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6336a5.htm
three had received 1 dose of measles-containing vaccine, and one had received 2 doses.
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6406a5.htm?s_cid=mm6406a5_w http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6406a5.htm?s_cid=mm6406a5_w
Among the 110 California patients, 49 (45%) were unvaccinated; five (5%) had 1 dose of measles-containing vaccine, seven (6%) had 2 doses, one (1%) had 3 doses, 47 (43%) had unknown or undocumented vaccination status, and one (1%) had immunoglobulin G seropositivity documented, which indicates prior vaccination or measles infection at an undetermined time.
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6020a7.htm?s_cid=mm6020a7_w
Among the 45 U.S. residents aged 12 months−19 years who acquired measles, 39 (87%) were unvaccinatedThat means 13% were vaccinated.
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6236a2.htm
Thirteen (8%) of the patients had been vaccinated, of whom three had received 2 doses of measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccine.
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6406a5.htm?s_cid=mm6406a5_w
five (5%) had 1 dose of measles-containing vaccine, seven (6%) had 2 doses, one (1%) had 3 doses, 47 (43%) had unknown or undocumented vaccination status, and one (1%) had immunoglobulin G seropositivity documented, which indicates prior vaccination or measles infection at an undetermined time.
Given that community/herd immunity for measles requires a immunity base greater than 92%(
http://www.ovg.ox.ac.uk/herd-immunity ). How do you achieve community immunity with a vaccine that fails to provide immunity up to 19% of the time?
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