Posted on 03/10/2015 9:20:42 AM PDT by C19fan
Some Oklahoma University students in the Sigma Alpha Epsilon fraternity were videorecorded singing (as best I and others can tell),
There will never be a n***** at SAE There will never be a n***** at SAE You can hang him from a tree But he’ll never sign with me There will never be a n***** at SAE
[Edited from source]
Oklahoma University president David Boren said, “If I’m allowed to, these students will face suspension or expulsion.” But he is not, I think, allowed to do that.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
That, least under the torturous California law, is established residency which requires formal eviction to force someone to leave. Don't know Oklahoma law, but suspect that every hotel in Oklahoma carries a notice that rooms may not be rented for more than 30 days in a row to prevent establishment of residency.
And it's not like they're on the street. The university has said that they can contact the Dean of Students if they need special arrangements for housing.
Then I wonder who at the university made the statement that no aid or assistance would be given to these students, as "we don't help bigots" - it was the tag line for yesterday's NBC Nightly News story.
“Such things were unheard of 20 years ago. Nobody did these things because it was considered rude. Now it’s an “up yours” sort of response.”
From my personal experience that’s just not true.
I travel a lot and am always still a bit surprised
at the things people will say even in front of strangers as long as the strangers aren’t visibly different.
Title 42 section 1983
Every person who under color of any statute, ordinance, regulation, custom, or usage, of any State or Territory or the District of Columbia, subjects, or causes to be subjected, any citizen of the United States or other person within the jurisdiction thereof to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured by the Constitution and laws, shall be liable to the party injured in an action at law, Suit in equity, or other proper proceeding for redress, except that in any action brought against a judicial officer for an act or omission taken in such officer’s judicial capacity, injunctive relief shall not be granted unless a declaratory decree was violated or declaratory relief was unavailable. For the purposes of this section, any Act of Congress applicable exclusively to the District of Columbia shall be considered to be a statute of the District of Columbia.
We'll see. Regardless I'm not losing any sleep or shedding any tears for what happened to these guys.
In the MSM there is.
I’m not losing any sleep over them, particularly them anyways, either. They deserve many of the consequences that are headed their way.
What I do lose sleep over are cases where, under governmental authority, Constitutional rights are abridged. Even cases where I find the exercise of those Constitutional rights abhorant. I may disagree with what someone says, even (as in this case) find it uncivilized and repugnant, but as a general rule I’ll support the right for them to say it.
Naggers????
If these kids get expelled and face financial consequences for a racist rant, I want to see La Raza and black student organizations face the same consequences for “hate crackers”.
Inverting a social structure from 60 years ago that had whites on top so that they are now on the bottom is not progress, it is not justice, it is just as wrong as before.
Thats just it. The laws and standards have to be applied evenly, without regard to factors like demographics. Per the 14th Amendment.
Like I said earlier, if these racist twerps have a good lawyer that lawyer will have PIs digging through OU’s trash to find situations where other students have made similar comments. Each example they find adds to the evidence that OU violated their 1st Amendment rights. Per SCOTUS precedent, it doesn’t take much and these punks are probably looking at a nice chunk of money and court-ordered reinstatement.
Which is why I think Boren will ultimately finagle a settlement, once things have cooled off.
In my experience it was generally the case where that sort of racialist thing was not spoken in public. It doesn’t mean it didn’t exist, it just seems that these days it’s more public. I had never been a party to such s large thing as what went on in this instance. There were private conversations such as this but nothing lik as was the case here
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.