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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Hey CW, we are usually both on the same page. However I have to disagree re RTW. In Florida employees have used it as a tool to depress wages and to prevent employees from having any representation regarding their employment. As an employee and not an owner or manager in this state for 30 years, I have experienced first hand the boot on the neck repeatedly. The only recourse in an employer/employee dispute is usually some sort of state agency. Or else the EEOC. The former is (at least in Florida) nothing but a rubber stamp for businesses who pay the taxes. And the latter is nothing but a country club for minorities. If you are a white male forget the EEOC. You don’t qualify as a protected class. I cannot tell you how many times I had wished I had had union representation when going up against a mammoth corporate entity to try to save my job. After working for one of these corporate behemoths for dozens of years only to be almost literally kicked out at the last minute so it didn’t have to grant me my pension benefits.


3 posted on 03/10/2015 2:57:58 AM PDT by 4Runner
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To: 4Runner; Kaslin
After working for one of these corporate behemoths for dozens of years only to be almost literally kicked out at the last minute so it didn’t have to grant me my pension benefits.

By federal law pensions are vested after either 6 or 7 years, I can't remember which. If you worked "dozens of years", you have pension benefits coming when you reach retirement age whether you are union or not.

4 posted on 03/10/2015 4:20:13 AM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: 4Runner

Seems you are a bit mis-informed as to freedom and liberty. If you don’t like your job, you are free to find another one, or start your own company where you can devise jobs exactly was you see fit.

What are you doing on FR with a pro union mindset?


10 posted on 03/10/2015 4:47:24 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: 4Runner

You don’t get any sympathy from me. I once worked for a private corporation run by a really nasty, arbitrary and capricious idiot whom we called “The Ayatollah.”

I was miserable and underpaid. You know what I did? I QUIT after a year. A few years later, the company went out of business.

You have to remember that NOBODY has a right to a job. It was that business owner’s absolute right to be a cheap and miserable jerk, and my absolute right to quit. PERIOD.


12 posted on 03/10/2015 5:01:13 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: 4Runner
The only recourse in an employer/employee dispute is usually some sort of state agency.

Baloney. That is NOT the only recourse. You can ALWAYS quit and look for another job. If you are a s good an employee as you seem to be, that should be no problem.

Or get a loan and start a competing business against the employer. Use your wife as the President/figurehead for the diversity loans.

But you always have another recourse. You just want government to use their guns to force your wants and desires on your employer.
13 posted on 03/10/2015 5:14:46 AM PDT by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: 4Runner

...”a tool to depress wages...”?? The market sets wages.

I PROMISE you, your employer wants to pay you $1 per 1,000 years, or maybe have YOU pay him for the privilege of working for him. He doesn’t get his way, however, because THE MARKET sets wages.

The gov. CAN corruptly interfere, and set union wages higher than human freedom dictates, but that’s another, corrupt, story.


14 posted on 03/10/2015 6:10:54 AM PDT by lordpumblechook
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