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Holder Weighs Dismantling the Ferguson Police Dept.
The New York Times ^ | 6 March 15 | JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS and RICHARD PÉREZ-PEÑAMARCH

Posted on 03/08/2015 1:55:02 PM PDT by SkyPilot

Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. vowed a firm response on Friday to what he called “appalling” racial misconduct by law enforcement officials in Ferguson, Mo., suggesting he was prepared to seek the dismantling of the police force there if necessary.

“We are prepared to use all the powers that we have, all the power that we have, to ensure that the situation changes there,” Mr. Holder told reporters here after returning from Columbia, S.C., where he appeared with President Obama at a town hall-style meeting at Benedict College. “That means everything from working with them to coming up with an entirely new structure.”

Asked if that included dismantling the police force, Mr. Holder said: “If that’s what’s necessary, we’re prepared to do that.”

His remarks came after two police supervisors in Ferguson resigned after being linked to racist emails turned up by a Justice Department investigation.

The two supervisors, Capt. Rick Henke and Sgt. William Mudd, left the force on Thursday, the city’s information office said Friday. A third employee, Mary Ann Twitty, clerk of the Municipal Court, was fired on Wednesday for her role in the emails.

Officials did not say whether any of the three actually wrote the emails, or whether other employees were involved in writing or forwarding them.

Captain Henke had been with the Ferguson Police Department since 1979, and was acting police chief for several months in 1997 and 1998. Last fall, he led a “night muster” formation of officers from other departments assigned to protect Ferguson’s Police Headquarters.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: blackcrime; deptofinjustice; ericholder; ferguson; holder; impeachnow; lawless; missouri; obama; obamalaw; police
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To: SkyPilot

FRACK him and the high horse HE rode in on - NO CONSTITUTIONAL AUTHORITY!


61 posted on 03/08/2015 4:54:36 PM PDT by normbal (normbal. somewhere in socialist occupied America)
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To: SkyPilot

If we think it necessary, we are prepared to wipe our asses on the US Constitution.


62 posted on 03/08/2015 5:00:19 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: faithhopecharity
“We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.”
Barack Obama

Anyone with more than a 6th grade education, a grasp of history beyond entitlements that slavery presumably bestows, and a sense of social order beyond tribal "respect" KNOWS the trajectory that's inevitable with ALL countries in the last 300 years that chose to maintain social order primarily through the means of a "National Police!"
The current continuing attempt to try "one more time" with the greatest free society ever so far in recorded history is also condemned to fail.

Normal, educated and rational citizens of any country would never tolerate any megalomaniac who would suggest a repetition.

Those who do not remember the mistakes of history are condemned to repeat them.
George Santayana

63 posted on 03/08/2015 5:10:04 PM PDT by publius911 (If you like Obamacare, You'll LOVE ObamaWeb.)
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To: Rome2000
As of 1865, the Federal Government has had the power to do whatever it wants.

Sorry Mr. Lincoln. I ain't buying that a second time under ANY circumstances!

64 posted on 03/08/2015 5:16:58 PM PDT by publius911 (If you like Obamacare, You'll LOVE ObamaWeb.)
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To: SkyPilot

This will be used as a justification later for the complete takeover of local police departments.


65 posted on 03/08/2015 5:25:29 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Obama told him it was ok.


66 posted on 03/08/2015 5:26:35 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (True followers of Christ emulate Christ. True followers of Mohammed emulate Mohammed.)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
By what authority?

Authority? who needs that.

By sheer, usurped power ... the flows out of the barrel of a gun, as does all political power.

67 posted on 03/08/2015 5:28:47 PM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: Dartman

Thank you-it isn’t original-a similar thing has happened in a couple of the tourist-trap rural towns with less than 1000 or so people in this part of the state in the last few years over disagreements with the citizens.

There were no ethnic/racial overtones to any of it-while there are a few families of other ethnic/racial ancestry here, most of the population in this area is primarily Caucasian and pretty evenly divided ethnically between Latino and Anglo/WASP. The main complaint was that the cops harassed tourists to get money from fines of all kinds, which hurts the tourist business-a big deal-and also complaints against cops for doing the same thing to local people to get money, resulting in several persons targeted winning big bucks lawsuits against the town/county-most unwise.

In one case, the cops went to the courthouse and quit, and in another a town council defunded the PD, eliminating it. The policing duties went either to the county sheriff or to a town marshal who was chosen. In both cases, it has worked very, very well-no more lawsuits, complaints of harassment, lost business revenue, etc-and no increase in crime...

If it works out here where frontier justice is still practiced sometimes, it might work for Ferguson, too...


68 posted on 03/08/2015 5:39:48 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: null and void
They don’t call it a Civil Defense force, that would imply we need (or perhaps that we deserve) defense. The official name is National Civilian Community Corps. I think of it as the NatCCC, or more simply, as the NatCs...

That is really clever!
But clever or not, I don't think that the latest incarnation of an African Napoleon (Emperor Bokassa and Idi Amin come to mind) will be amused.

69 posted on 03/08/2015 5:44:21 PM PDT by publius911 (If you like Obamacare, You'll LOVE ObamaWeb.)
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To: Parley Baer
Exactly. Under what authority?

As famously quoted "there is no controlling legal authority"...

70 posted on 03/08/2015 6:22:24 PM PDT by Go Gordon (Barack McGreevey Obama)
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To: SkyPilot

Holder doesn’t have the authority to do this. That won’t stop him though. Even if he doesn’t cause this directly he will force it to happen with the weight of the federal government.

Obama calls Missouri Governor “You want X subsidy you were promised? It can happen or not. Depends on how you answer this question: What do you believe should happen to the Ferguson Police Department”?

The Feds don’t have the direct power to enforce this change but they certainly have the indirect power to enforce it.


71 posted on 03/08/2015 6:55:42 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Changing the name of a thing doesn't change the thing. A liberal by any other name...)
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To: CaptainAmiigaf
Actually, GEheim STAats POlitzei (It translates, more or less to Secret State Police). German structure tends to encourage acromyms.

If there weren't so many Fibbies who still insist on that silly Constitution thing, and demonstrated more loyalty to the Dear Leader, it would have worked out very well.

72 posted on 03/08/2015 7:12:56 PM PDT by jonascord (It's sarcasm unless otherwise noted...)
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To: I want the USA back
This will be used as a justification later for the complete takeover of local police departments.

Bingo! You figured it out. That is the Plan. The Feds have been selling MRAPS designed for military combat to police agencies nationwide for pennies on the dollar. They have been supplying them with military gear, ammo, automatic weapons, body armor, grenades, etc. All lethal weapons of War. The Feds under Obama/Holder constantly threaten to pull money to any State or agency that will not play ball. Once Imam/Holder take Ferguson, the rest will fall into line.

73 posted on 03/08/2015 7:24:01 PM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: SkyPilot

This is so 1984ish.


74 posted on 03/08/2015 8:47:40 PM PDT by ully2
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To: SkyPilot

By the way, aren’t Holder and his thugs looking at the skin color of the policemen in question? Just sayin’...

With all the fluff about Selma this wknd, it’s amazing that the Dems try to take credit for it, but the Selma march was against the racist southern Democraps.

And all of the other instances of Repubs in history fighting for Civil Rights AGAINST Demoncraps are ignored.

https://www.gop.com/history/

—Classic Republicanism is for INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS.

—Classic Democrat fascism is for COLLECTIVE RIGHTS (Socialism/Marxism/Communism/Fascism).


75 posted on 03/08/2015 8:47:40 PM PDT by AlanGreenSpam (Obama: The First 'American IDOL' President - sponsored by Chicago NeoCom Thugs)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Since when do they care about authority?


76 posted on 03/08/2015 9:05:08 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: PGR88
A real Fed.gov power-grab if ever there was one

Truly atrocious 10A bust-out. Just seize the PD, take it away from the People of Missouri in the name of the black race and "social justice", and then do a pogrom of the white cops.

"Black skin good, white skin bad! " </apologies to George Orwell>

Purify the white folks, by burning them briquette-black.

Problem is, you wind up with East St. Louis in about 18 months, tops. An economic and social desert. Whites will see what Obama is doing and flee Ferguson, abandoning their equities and just getting their families the hell to safety. Who wants to star in a continuing production of Zulu every weekend?

77 posted on 03/09/2015 3:27:14 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house, the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutfeld)
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To: faithhopecharity
I am unaware that the federal govt has any such powers to destruct a local town’s pd. but if it does, those powers need to be repealed ASAP!

They have the power to conduct a "civil-rights" lawsuit against Ferguson which will bankrupt the town, if the town doesn't do what they demand.

The Dept of Just-Us Civil Rights Division needs to be disbanded by the next Republican president.

78 posted on 03/09/2015 3:43:18 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: PapaBear3625
They have the power to conduct a "civil-rights" lawsuit against Ferguson which will bankrupt the town, if the town doesn't do what they demand.

The wrongful death lawsuits will do that.

79 posted on 03/09/2015 3:44:25 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Truth29
What was the wording of the emails?

They read one or two on NPR. They were clearly just humor, something about crimestoppers is when a black baby dies (better worded punchline).

80 posted on 03/09/2015 3:59:37 AM PDT by palmer (Net "neutrality" = Obama turning the internet into FlixNet)
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