Posted on 03/02/2015 4:34:26 AM PST by bryan999
The family of an Oregon first-grader is outraged that his school forced the boy to sit by himself during lunch as punishment for being late.
The boy’s grandmother, Laura Hoover, took to Facebook to protest his retribution with photos of Hunter sulking into a cardboard wall blocking his view of a cafeteria bustling with his peers.
“His momma’s car sometimes doesn’t like to start right up. Sometimes he’s a couple minutes late to school. Yesterday, he was one minute late,” Hoover wrote. “This is what his momma discovered they do to punish him.”
His mother, Nicole Garloff, came to check on little Hunter at Lincoln Elementary in Grants Pass on Tuesday and ended up taking him home. She found him staring at his stark food tray in tears over the whole ordeal.
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Yup. Responsible parents take the necessary measures to see to it that their children are able to comply with the rules associated with whatever activity they are participating in.
If you think treating the kid like that for the actions of someone else, is good, Yeah, you do make me sick. If you enjoy that, well, that speaks volumes.
Petty dictators reside in every aspect of American life nowadays. Sure, the mom should make arrangements to get the kid to school on time. But that is an asinine punishment for the kid, not for the parent. How is it the kid’s fault?
Maybe you think the school should just ignore it, let it go since it's not the kids fault, right? Or maybe you think they should just expel him, maybe that would actually help the kid. Na, free-for all for everyone, let's just ignore the problem since they can't do anything to the parents. Good plan.
So, in your world, a child being “shunned” for something that is completely out of his or her control, is A-OK?
Ignore the problem or punish the kid, who can't control his mother getting the car started any more than you or I.
Two bad solutions to the problem.
You, for want of someone to focus the ire of the greatly offended state school system on, will bring more humiliation down on a kid who is already likely humiliated just by being the focus of attention for being late.
But you are right about one thing. It is indeed a life lesson. There are people in this world who will take out their anger on anyone available, whether they cause the problem or not, whether they can implement a solution or not.
Yep. It's good to find out at an early age that not only does everyone have one, some people are one.
read it again. neither are a solution. but a lesson CAN be learned from it, how hard is that to absorb? and i not only don’t appreciate the personal insults, I won’t respond to them anymore. Look inward and go away
"Sometimes he’s a couple minutes late to school. Yesterday, he was one minute late,”
According to grandma, it's a recurring problem...sounds like the last time was the time the punishment was imposed.
That is not the question asked and unless you define the bounds, then you cannot state that it falls within the bounds.
Define bullying and discipline, it is not a difficult task.
As for personal insults, I don't recall making any specific ones, so if you took something I said personally, that's on you.
Have a nice day.
Maybe it’s time to end the tyranny of government controlled “education”.
Give them a raise!!
In my world something as trivial as this would not be discussed all over the country.
The child will be just fine,unless the adults make a big deal out of the incident.
Is it fair? No,but welcome to life.
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Since you are unable or unwilling to provide your definition of bullying, then the answer must be no.
You seem to be the only FReeper who doesn’t know the definition of bullying, and can’t find a dictionary. I’m not buying your act. You invested a lot of time on this thread, advocating the humiliation of an innocent child for events beyond his control. Even if you really are as ignorant about the meanings of words as you claim to be, that doesn’t excuse holding an innocent child up to ridicule to punish him for something you know he’s not guilty of. No matter what you call it, it’s wrong.
Junior is gonna learn an important lesson from this: if you can't get your way, you drag people through the mud on social media.
We don't know that for sure...all we know is what the family is claiming...
If you read the article, it clearly states this isn't punishment for a first offense. The kid has been tardy numerous times before...why he has been late has only been insinuated by the grandma using the crappy vehicle story.
Is this true? Maybe, maybe not...maybe the kid is being tardy deliberately. Has anyone on this thread, outside of those challenging the assertions, even stopped to consider this?
That the school and the teacher may actually know a hell of a lot more about this situation than all of us keyboard warriors on the interwebs?
It is but to laugh.
So, I suppose you talked to God to determine that the child had no influence on being late that day. He didn't leave his lunch on the counter. He didn't forget to put his homework in his backpack. He didn't spill milk down the front of his shirt and have to change it. I guess your are smarter than everybody else and know things that they don't.
As to the bullying reference, since you are unable to define what you believe the term means so I cannot discuss it based on that, I will address it from another angle. In civilized society, those placed in positions of authority by that society establish rules for the society. They also clearly define consequences for violation of those rules. They enforce those consequences when rules are violated. That appears to be exactly what the school did. It is in fact one of their assigned task.
If that is too logical for you to comprehend, let's move on to the psychological aspect. The three lowest rungs of Maslow's ladder of psychological needs are Survival, Security and Belonging. Psychologist hold that to impose change in the behaviour of an individual you must impact them on one of these rungs. I'm sure we can both agree that making the child fear for its survival or security would be a bit much. That leaves the third rung, belonging. That is exactly where the imposed discipline targeted.
So, the school was carrying out its assigned responsibility with a discipline that targets the correct motivational level for the child to impose a change that is beneficial to the child in the long run. (Unless of course you believe that a pattern of tardiness is a desirable trait that a child should be learning.)
Now you are going to try to counter with the argument that the punishment is humiliating and damaging to the ego of the child. Nice try, but it doesn't wash. Children are very capable of grasping the message that if you break a rule, you suffer the consequences and it is a message best learned. The ego damage you would allude to occurs when the child is exposed to competing messages indicating that they should not be held responsible and should not be subject to consequences. The exact message that you are up on your soap box shouting out to counter the message that the school is trying to send. This is also well documented in the psychological field. The effects of this type of influence is clearly visible in today's society. Blacks should not be held responsible for their actions and well being. Illegal immigrants should not be held to establish laws. Schools should not be allowed to impose discipline.
Do you not pay any attention to the fact that the growing subsets of our society, to which the young and the impressionable are drawn, are in fact the ones that are the strictest about rules and enforcing them, gangs, cartels, militias, jihadists, and within the schools the cliques? Why is that, why are the precious young darlings that you are so concerned about ego damage drawn to the subgroups that thrive on the very practices (often at an extreme level) that you are fighting so hard to protect them from?
I could continue on with example after example how your distorted thinking is leading to continuous breakdown of our society and its valuable structures, but it would be pointless. After all, you aren't even able to define what the term bullying means to you. Why should I believe you can grasp anything that deals above the most basic emotional level where you choose to wallow?
Words mean things. You keep trying to negotiate the meaning of the word “bullying,” as though that will somehow justify punishing an innocent child.
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