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Boris Nemtsov murder: Putin now governs mostly through terror and propaganda
The Telegraph ^ | 28 Feb 15 | Ben Judah

Posted on 03/01/2015 11:54:08 PM PST by elhombrelibre

Vladimir Putin has ruled Russia with three things: money, propaganda and terror. When the Russian economy was booming and the oil price was over $100 a barrel, Putin ruled Russia almost entirely with money – throwing cash at the elites and at the people – with a small dose of propaganda and a tiny injection here and there of terror. Now the money is running out, the equation has shifted. Today, Russia is ruled mostly through propaganda and terror.

Boris Nemtsov took not a step nor a breath that wasn't under the intense surveillance of the FSB. Just like all opposition leaders in Russia. Nothing Boris Nemtsov did was not bugged, tailed, filmed or monitored by the secret police. It is quite simply impossible that this man could have been shot dead without the Kremlin knowing there was a plot afoot to kill him.

This means the murder of Boris Nemtsov was either ordered or allowed to happen: which come to exactly the same thing. That he could be killed like this has shaken the oligarchs and the officers of the Russian elite to their core.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: borisnemtsov; putinsbuttboys; russia; vladtheimploder
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Criticize Putin and die.
1 posted on 03/01/2015 11:54:08 PM PST by elhombrelibre
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I can’t think of a rational reason for Putin to have done this or been involved in it in any way. Smells like some sort of a false flag op.


2 posted on 03/02/2015 12:05:30 AM PST by leopardseal
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I mean, it isn’t like the guy wasn’t capable of something like that if there WAS a reason for it, there just doesn’t seem to be.


3 posted on 03/02/2015 12:06:49 AM PST by leopardseal
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To: leopardseal
As Trotsky said, “The purpose of terror is to terrorize.” I don't believe the FSB would both have this critic under surveillance at all times, yet not see or stop the murder. If you want to believe Putin's incapable of murder, then there is probably no amount of evidence that will change your mind. There is a false flag involved; it's the false flag of those who attempt to shift the blame away from the people who control the people of Putinstan. Putin is a statist tyrant and a criminal and president for life.
4 posted on 03/02/2015 12:12:36 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: leopardseal

http://www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2012/mar/11/journalist-safety-vladimir-putin


5 posted on 03/02/2015 12:15:09 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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A politician with 85% popular support doesn’t need to murder political opponents...


6 posted on 03/02/2015 12:16:02 AM PST by leopardseal
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To: elhombrelibre

Glad I don’t live in Russia.


7 posted on 03/02/2015 12:25:31 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: leopardseal

So this ex-KGB colonel and ex head of the FSB, which replaced the KGB, and now president for life, is just a typical politician worrying, about losing the next election?


8 posted on 03/02/2015 12:33:18 AM PST by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: elhombrelibre

“Nothing Boris Nemtsov did was not bugged, tailed, filmed or monitored by the secret police. It is quite simply impossible that this man could have been shot dead without the Kremlin knowing there was a plot afoot to kill him.”

Whatever the facts here, that leap is simply not logical. That if the victim was under constant surveillance, that any plot to kill him would have been known. Presidents are watched universally, but it does not mean they know about the Squeaky Fromme, The Hinkley, or the Oswald.

It simply does not logically follow that watching him 24/7, means any polt would be revealed. Also, the article states that, but does not even attempt to prove why they think that is the case.


9 posted on 03/02/2015 12:34:15 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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“I don’t believe the FSB would both have this critic under surveillance at all times, yet not see or stop the murder.”

Dr. Martin Luther King, rises to a point of order,,,


10 posted on 03/02/2015 12:36:42 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: ansel12

As I’ve read it, the guy has 85% appropval and of the 15% who don’t approve, 13% disapprove because they don’t think the guy is being hard-line ENOUGH with the West and something like 2% disapprove because they believe anything coming from the West. The last guy who ever had numbers like that was Jesus and no politician would do anything which had any chance at all of jeopardizing anything like that or rocking whatever boat was involved. You have to be looking at something the wrong way.


11 posted on 03/02/2015 12:45:58 AM PST by leopardseal
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With 85% popularity, there should be free elections too.


12 posted on 03/02/2015 12:47:16 AM PST by BeadCounter
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To: leopardseal

Zero opportunity for a gain for Putin on this one. I think it’s more likely that one of his hundred-odd supporters (the ultra rich/Russian mafia class) set this up and wants a chance of government...pushing Putin out. Execution style situation....not a minor-league deal or some thug-robbery episode.


13 posted on 03/02/2015 12:48:55 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: leopardseal

Last guy with numbers like that? Ever hear of Saddam or Gaddafi. They had high numbers too. I think the annexation of Crimea is largely thought of being the reason for the rise in popularity, it isn’t a lack of inflation.


14 posted on 03/02/2015 12:49:55 AM PST by BeadCounter
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To: pepsionice

Your theory is the best one I’ve heard yet.


15 posted on 03/02/2015 12:53:34 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: elhombrelibre

Obama is envious. Putin doesn’t have to contend with armed peasants.


16 posted on 03/02/2015 12:56:59 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not A Matter of Opinion)
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To: elhombrelibre

Obama taking notes...


17 posted on 03/02/2015 1:02:50 AM PST by Organic Panic
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To: leopardseal

Isn’t it odd, then, that so many of his opponents end up murdered? You do know that most of these types want 100% approval, right?


18 posted on 03/02/2015 1:07:31 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: DesertRhino

The FBI bugged Dr. King. I’m not sure - having never seen or read anything alleging that - that the FBI ever had the type of surveillance of Dr. King that is routine for the critics of Putin.


19 posted on 03/02/2015 1:15:28 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: pepsionice
As theories go, it's most plausible if you believe that Putin's enemies are omnipotent in his country. I'm sure he's up late nights worrying how they'll discredit him by killing his enemies. That ought to drive the president for life from office, after all.
20 posted on 03/02/2015 1:17:34 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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