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This to me is ingratitude. The nurse got the best possible care, her dog wasn't put down right away, but kept and nurtured and then cleaned up and presented to her, but she's not grateful. Life threw her a HUGE curve-ball and the best possible scientists saved her life.
1 posted on 03/01/2015 1:52:31 PM PST by CorporateStepsister
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No, Nina. Your government failed you by allowing an illegal alien infected with a deadly disease to get a visa and come to the United States and infect innocent Americans.

You got the best medical treatment because the government could not afford to have an American citizen die because of its willful endangerment to the public.

I expected this rhetoric from the black nurse. Yes, I said it. I just can’t stomach people’s bellyaching about everything and anything.


2 posted on 03/01/2015 1:59:37 PM PST by NoKoolAidforMe (I'm clinging to my God and my guns. You can keep the change.)
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This hospital chain stupidly gave that illegal alien Duncan's family a million dollars for his reckless lies when entering this country and then lying to the ER staff . His actions exposed numerous hospital staff to this dangerous virus.
The hospital set a bad precedent and will be paying out for a long time.
3 posted on 03/01/2015 1:59:51 PM PST by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full force)
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Sorry, but I’ve seen the original recommendations provided by CDC for dealing with Ebola patients. Following their PPE recommendations would almost guarantee contracting the disease. Among other interesting things, it recommended taking off globes first and then removing the rest of your equipment with bare hands!

What they posted was a generic recommendation for how to wear PPE. Inexcusable negligence.

BTW, the nurse may have gotten the best possible care, but she became sick because of the negligence of the hospital. Heck, they could have called me and I’d have suggested better protocols than what they told these women to do!

Though it’s not like the nurses were kept isolated and unable to look up proper procedures for protecting themselves.


4 posted on 03/01/2015 2:00:38 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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She should be suing the gubmint. The patient should never have been allowed into he country.


5 posted on 03/01/2015 2:00:52 PM PST by jospehm20
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Life threw her a HUGE curve-ball and the best possible scientists saved her life.

The government and the 'best possible scientists' threw her a huge curve ball. Our government gave a lying immigrant a visa and those CDC scientists issues grossly incorrect procedures for handling ebola patients.

This poor girl has severe liver damage and probably other damage as well from that illness. She'll never be the same and will probably end up needing a liver transplant.

6 posted on 03/01/2015 2:08:50 PM PST by ladyjane
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Too bad this nurse wasn’t intelligent enough to do a couple of Google searches about how to protect herself.


8 posted on 03/01/2015 2:15:22 PM PST by dinodino
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This will not be the end of the story.

Follow the money.


14 posted on 03/01/2015 2:33:03 PM PST by 353FMG
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This will not be the end of the story.

Follow the money.


15 posted on 03/01/2015 2:33:17 PM PST by 353FMG
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Sucks to be the first one through the grinder.


17 posted on 03/01/2015 2:35:35 PM PST by Vermont Lt (When you are inclined to to buy storage boxes, but contractor bags instead.)
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We need to look at what is happening to our health care system. Each event in a hospital, doctor’s office or pharmacy is a “billable event”.

Government agencies like CMS define what is a billable event for Medicare, Medicaid and CHIPS. They aren’t the same. Insurance companies then start with the CMS criteria in defining what is a “billable event” for each health plan and provider.

They all have agreements with providers. So under the same “plan”, what is a billable event at one provider may not be a billable event at another provider.

The payment level is marginal ... and for medicaid flat out impossible. So the medical providers assign each “billable event” to be conducted by the lowest paid person possible.

So the minimum wage, unskilled, usually uneducated intake person at the front end has the patient fill out a form of personal medical history. The form is not designed for the reality experienced by patients. The form is designed for the reality of the government CMS.

The lowest paid, least skilled medical provider employee might also ask the patient questions and help fill out the form. Some of the questions on the form are logical impossibilities. So even the educated have problems completing the form.

The form is then filed and never looked at again. It is not a billable event for any subsequent nurse or doctor or lab technician to look at the form.

In December in the emergency room I filled out the form and listed drugs to which I’m allergic. Not a single subsequent employee knew of those allergies. Upon admission as inpatient, I had to fill out a similar form again with my medical history. That paper also was never again looked at.

On the other hand, entire groups within the hospital seemed to make it their mission to have “creative” diagnosis and “creative” treatment that would create additional billable events.

Many hospitals in poor areas are going bankrupt, especially with the expansion of Medicaid, which, as predicted is creating more unintended consequences than it is solving. The medical provider that can get creative and create a large number of billable events has a better chance to survive than a medical provider who is conscientious and does not want to “over treat” or “over medicate” the patient.

So the medical providers are incentivized to game the system.

And, of course, the patients are incentivized to game the system. Expanding medicaid has not increased preventive care, as intended. Expanding medicaid has increased Emergency room visits for non-emergency situations.

As one doctor told me last week in a long discussion of the problems of the system: “Doctors no longer over-treat due to fear of ambulance chasing lawyers. Over-Treatment is now institutionalized in the practice of medicine and taught in the medical schools.”


19 posted on 03/01/2015 2:42:05 PM PST by spintreebob
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Totally disagree with you. The hospital failed on this big time.
1. They did not know how to care for an Ebola patient, and they should have requested a transfer to an Ebola facility immediately, but did not.
2. They never trained ( immediately on Duncans diagnosis)the nurses on how to deal with this pathogen. Ebola is much more contagious than any other pathogens in the hospital. The nurses had to look online to find out what to do. Where were the infection control department administrators in the hospital? This was shear, gross incompetence.
3. A hospital should always have the best interest of their staff in mind at all times. Any google research could have shown what PPE the nurses should be wearing. The hospital opted to follow the flawed instructions of the CDC, instead of using their own best judgement on how to protect their nurses.They did not want to spend the money on better equipment.
4. The nurses had no means of effectively disposing of the waste. The room next to Duncans was filled with bagged waste, and the nurses were tasked with handling the bagged waste and pouring bleach over the bags. There was no protocol on how to remove the waste. This is easily another mode of transmission.
5.The hospital videoed Nina without her permission, and released her name to the public. This is a major HIPAA violation.
6. If you get sick on the job, by law your employer has to pay your medical expenses. Why should she be grateful to the hospital? They had to provide the care to her.
I hope she wins big $$ from this hospital.
20 posted on 03/01/2015 2:48:20 PM PST by kaila
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The closest thing to an excuse I can think of for suboptimal care in this case (if the care *was* suboptimal) is a lack of effective communication on the part of top brass.I worked for years at a very famous hospital affiliated with a very famous medical school.There,a phone call would have been made to a faculty member of the medical school and he/she would have given very detailed info regarding treatment options.In fact,he/she would have become deeply involved in that patient's care.

Presumably the Dallas hospital is also affiliated with a medical school (just about every large hospital is).

21 posted on 03/01/2015 2:57:38 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Obama;A Low Grade Intellect With Lower Morals)
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The CDC is the guidelines that hospitals use in a case like Ebola. The guidelines were not adequate, period. The hospital is liable as their guidelines that were the CDC guidelines were not adequate but the nurse was their employee. Though morally innocent, the hospital is legally guilty.

The real problem is the CDC guidelines have become political as opposed to rational medical care and isolation and denial of entry from “Hot Zones.”

Thank you Obama, for this insanity.


28 posted on 03/01/2015 3:26:27 PM PST by cpdiii (DECKHAND, ROUGHNECK, GEOLOGIST, PILOT, PHARMACIST, LIBERTARIAN The Constitution is worth dying for.)
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What a load of one sided propaganda that we read now.
That left wing rag in Dallas literally peddles a pathetic PR piece with photos of the poor victim!
Do the trial lawyers NOW own that left wing rag in Dallas?

This shows the Dem party media complex total control by the Dem's major donors namely Trial lawyers , the vermin of the world.

The US media is a complete joke and nothing more than carefully packages lies and spin.

30 posted on 03/01/2015 3:51:15 PM PST by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full force)
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If the hospital did so poor of work, why is that in Dallas there was only 1 death and the 2 that contracted the most dire consequences lived to tell about it? Come now tell us that the hospital did not do enough! Go away just go away. How ridiculous, she should be thanking God that she is alive yet today


40 posted on 03/01/2015 4:10:44 PM PST by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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Call it what you will - I know a number of nurses at several local hospitals and what they were telling me back then corroborates her claims - 99% of the Nation’s hospitals were unprepared and paying a potentially serious issue lip service with the intent to “react the best we can if it hits here”.


48 posted on 03/02/2015 4:19:40 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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