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‘Traditional Marriage’ Disgusts NRO Writer
The American Conservative ^ | February 27, 2015 | Rod Dreher

Posted on 02/27/2015 5:27:36 PM PST by ConservativeTeen

Few things make me shudder quite like hearing someone use the phrase "traditional marriage" unironically.

— Katherine Timpf (@KatTimpf) February 27, 2015

This is one of those tiny but telling things. Katherine Timpf is a reporter for National Review Online. She’s a Millennial, a Hillsdale grad, and has published lots of things in right-of-center publications. And she’s a libertarian.

One is not at all surprised to find libertarians, especially libertarians in their twenties, supporting same-sex marriage. Nor is one surprised to find libertarians working at National Review. What I find startling, but a sign of the times, is that a National Review writer not only doesn’t support traditional marriage, but finds the term and concept viscerally disgusting.

A small thing, but a big thing too.

History is running right over the people standing athwart it yelling, “Stop!”


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; katherinetimpf; nationalreview; ssm; traditionalmarriage
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To: CMailBag

Yes and NOT “cute” at all.


21 posted on 02/27/2015 6:00:29 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Talisker

Something I have held for some time. However, you have stated the case extremely well.


22 posted on 02/27/2015 6:01:49 PM PST by expat2
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To: Talisker

I actually explained to a gay co_worker that marriage is a religious institution and used the same points you did. He thought it made sense. People didn’t used to have to get a license (permission) from the gov’t to get married. They got married at church, then just publicly declared or registered it for legal matters concerning property and future children.


23 posted on 02/27/2015 6:02:35 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Star Traveler

They’re well on the way of doing so.


24 posted on 02/27/2015 6:03:00 PM PST by nopardons
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To: ConservativeTeen

oh it isn’t a decline. they have long ago decided to get down into the mud and roll around


25 posted on 02/27/2015 6:04:52 PM PST by Nifster
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To: ConservativeTeen

Looks like the person in question has since deleted her tweet, coward.


26 posted on 02/27/2015 6:07:20 PM PST by ConservativeTeen (Proud Right Wing Extremist)
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To: ConservativeTeen

It’s normal marriage. The opposite of abnormal marriage.


27 posted on 02/27/2015 6:07:35 PM PST by Old Yeller (Civil rights are for civilized people.)
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To: Trillian
She probably gets pi$$ed off when a man holds the door open for her.

The glasses suck, spend the money on contacts or LASIK.

28 posted on 02/27/2015 6:08:47 PM PST by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Mississippi!)
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To: Chickensoup
Might be both...I'm not sure. I was trying to read between the lines of some things Steyn said, and I got the feeling Steorts didn't like his, Steyn's, views of the homosexual agenda. Steyn's problems with Mann might have been part of it or most of it.

But why NR would get rid of a conservative of Steyn's magnitude is troubling and difficult to understand. For many people, Steyn was the only reason they read NR. While Lileks, Goldberg, and Williamson write great articles, much of the stuff from their other writers is pretty dry.

29 posted on 02/27/2015 6:14:49 PM PST by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: Talisker

A big reason we are in this mess is because many have been conditioned to think that the state defines and creates marriage, in my opinion. ‘Gay marriage’ can exist because, to them, anything the state accepts is a marriage. And to the state in the modern era, all that can ever be is simply whatever judges, pols, or the voting majority think it is at any one time.

But I think it’s pretty unlikely that the state will ever give up the term at this point.

Freegards


30 posted on 02/27/2015 6:16:05 PM PST by Ransomed
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To: ConservativeTeen

Does the fact that two eggs can’t create a viable offspring “disgust” her too?

That Biological FACT won’t change to appease her perverted activist whims any more than wishing water would freeze at 100 degrees F instead of 32.


31 posted on 02/27/2015 6:18:20 PM PST by HLPhat (This space is intentionaly blank.)
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To: John S Mosby; CMailBag

She is much cuter than Harf!


32 posted on 02/27/2015 6:18:35 PM PST by Wayne07
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To: driftless2

My NR is a gift. I read Chronicles and Human Events to get a conservative perspective.

I love Steyn and cannot believe he has not been snapped up by another site.


33 posted on 02/27/2015 6:21:43 PM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: driftless2; Chickensoup

The NRO folks had a hissy fit over an old joke about gays that Steyn quoted.

“Here are two jokes one can no longer tell on American television. But you can still find them in the archives, out on the edge of town, in Sub-Basement Level 12 of the ever-expanding Smithsonian Mausoleum of the Unsayable. First, Bob Hope, touring the world in the year or so after the passage of the 1975 Consenting Adult Sex Bill: “I’ve just flown in from California, where they’ve made homosexuality legal. I thought I’d get out before they make it compulsory.”

For Hope, this was an oddly profound gag, discerning even at the dawn of the Age of Tolerance that there was something inherently coercive about the enterprise. Soon it would be insufficient merely to be “tolerant” — warily accepting, blithely indifferent, mildly amused, tepidly supportive, according to taste. The forces of “tolerance” would become intolerant of anything less than full-blown celebratory approval.

Second joke from the archives: Dean Martin and Frank Sinatra kept this one in the act for a quarter-century. On stage, Dino used to have a bit of business where he’d refill his tumbler and ask Frank, “How do you make a fruit cordial?” And Sinatra would respond, “I dunno. How do you make a fruit cordial?” And Dean would say, “Be nice to him.”

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/366896/age-intolerance-mark-steyn

“I am sorry my editor at NR does not grasp the stakes. Indeed, he seems inclined to “normalize” what GLAAD is doing. But, if he truly finds my “derogatory language” offensive, I’d rather he just indefinitely suspend me than twist himself into a soggy pretzel of ambivalent inertia trying to avoid the central point — that a society where lives are ruined over an aside because some identity-group don decides it must be so is ugly and profoundly illiberal.

As to his kind but belated and conditional pledge to join me on the barricades, I had enough of that level of passionate support up in Canada to know that, when the call to arms comes, there will always be some “derogatory” or “puerile” expression that it will be more important to tut over. So thanks for the offer, but I don’t think you’d be much use, would you?”

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/366943/re-education-camp-mark-steyn


34 posted on 02/27/2015 6:22:41 PM PST by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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To: ConservativeTeen

I’d use “real marriage”, “actual marriage”, “biblical marriage” too.


35 posted on 02/27/2015 6:24:24 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Talisker

It is like in Animal Farm where words and names change meaning often to mean something opposite of their original meaning.


36 posted on 02/27/2015 6:35:25 PM PST by rey
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To: MrShoop

Marie Harf is even prettier. But she’s one of the most stupid women I’ve ever listened to.


37 posted on 02/27/2015 6:54:25 PM PST by onedoug
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To: ConservativeTeen

The government will tell you what you are. You have voted for 0% freedom and you shall get it as the govt sees fit. Now STFU.


38 posted on 02/27/2015 7:01:30 PM PST by MtnClimber (For views of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: ConservativeTeen

I hate the term traditional marriage also.
It would suggest there are other types of marriage. There are not. There is one marriage. One Man, one Women period.........


39 posted on 02/27/2015 7:04:58 PM PST by SECURE AMERICA (I am an American Not a Republican or a Democrat.)
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To: ConservativeTeen

I first subscribed to National Review in 1976. I’d read the issues cover to cover. I found it no longer valuable by 1992. Articles like this one illustrate that it has continued to go downhill.


40 posted on 02/27/2015 7:15:06 PM PST by Pelham (The refusal to deport is defacto amnesty)
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