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DE FACTO GUN BAN: Ruling Looms On California “Microstamping” Law
PatDollard.com ^ | 02/22/2015 | Jack Flash

Posted on 02/22/2015 5:15:57 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum

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1 posted on 02/22/2015 5:15:57 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Microstamping will make the revolver the murder weapon of choice.


2 posted on 02/22/2015 5:17:30 PM PST by P-Marlowe (Saying that ISIL is not Islamic is like saying Obama is not an Idiot.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Back in 1982, the voters of California REJECTED prop 15 to ban handguns in California.

Since that day, the politicians have been working overtime trying to find ways to get around the will of the VOTERS, one bite at a time.

Now they may have succeeded.

http://ballotpedia.org/California_Proposition_15,_Handgun_Registration_Initiative_%281982%29


3 posted on 02/22/2015 5:21:05 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

If they ever do get it to work, there are so many ways to misuse the law. For example, collect empties from anywhere and drop them after a crime.


4 posted on 02/22/2015 5:21:13 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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Microstamping?

can anyone say....Service Parts?

I buy a weapon that is microstamped firing pin, etc, . I buy it, and order service parts from a myriad of sources, before I take possession, and the day I get it home, I replace the firing pin, barrel and any other part that may be microstamped.


5 posted on 02/22/2015 5:28:03 PM PST by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Just have one federal judge call it unconstitutional...

can’t we use the gay marriage plan for good?


6 posted on 02/22/2015 5:44:57 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: P-Marlowe

I’ll bet the law, as written, applies to revolvers as well. Makes as much sense as rest of the law.


7 posted on 02/22/2015 5:45:09 PM PST by muir_redwoods ("He is a very shallow critic who cannot see an eternal rebel in the heart of a conservative." G.K .C)
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Emry cloth. What’s that Mr ATF? Gee, I guess the stampings must have worn down to the point of being unreadable. All that practice I do at the range you see.


8 posted on 02/22/2015 5:51:02 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

This assumes that the gun used in the crime was legally purchased and registered properly. If it’s stolen (most street guns are), this info and tracking is worthless.


9 posted on 02/22/2015 5:54:30 PM PST by Aut Pax Aut Bellum (Ever notice how a spiral goes faster as it nears the bottom?)
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Just polish everything up nice with a dremel tool. Just saying, mind you.


10 posted on 02/22/2015 6:00:20 PM PST by OKSooner ("Remember Fort Hood, Boston, and Moore, Oklahoma.")
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They work better if you don’t have time to pick up evidence.


11 posted on 02/22/2015 6:01:00 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: muir_redwoods

Maybe but revolver don’t leave brass at the scene, which is why many discerning criminals have always chosen them


12 posted on 02/22/2015 6:03:16 PM PST by OKSooner ("Remember Fort Hood, Boston, and Moore, Oklahoma.")
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Salt...


13 posted on 02/22/2015 6:07:07 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Back in 1982, I was one of those California voters who rejected Proposition 15.


14 posted on 02/22/2015 6:10:20 PM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (Everytime the cash register rings in a gun store, a Founding Father gets his wings.)
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Just polish everything up nice with a dremel tool. Just saying, mind you.

But gosh, that could be illegal! Criminals will be sad knowing they aren't allowed to remove the microstamping, as they would never do anything illegal. No, crooks always obey the law.

15 posted on 02/22/2015 6:27:37 PM PST by roadcat
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People who use stolen guns will just file tip of the firing pin. But of course it was never about solving crimes.


16 posted on 02/22/2015 6:34:50 PM PST by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Total ban of all firearm, ammunition, spare parts, and training for all police departments and government agencies in the state of CA until their attitude improves, effective the day the microstamping law becomes effective.
17 posted on 02/22/2015 6:38:40 PM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Maryland has a law for over a decade that says each new handgun sale must be accompanied with a spent shell that’s then forwarded to the state police upon purchase. The theory is that a case can be used to ID the gun and, from that, the owner.

Not one single case for any gun crime in Maryland has been able to use that connection as evidence leading to a conviction. Not one single case. There have been several cases which led investigators to an original owner, but those owners had nothing to do with the crimes.


18 posted on 02/22/2015 6:41:05 PM PST by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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I buy it, and order service parts from a myriad of sources, before I take possession, and the day I get it home, I replace the firing pin, barrel and any other part that may be microstamped.

A similar argument was used against the crack-brained push for "Ballistic Fingerprinting" (BF). Despite all the evidence against it working, it was still pushed by all the anti-gun orgs.

I'd tangle with these idiots on the newspapers comments section. My boilerplate reply was that if they believed in BF, then surely they'd support "RF" (radial fingerprinting) - take tread impressions of all five tires of every new car and use that info in solving crimes.

Never got a reply. Maybe a few of them figured out that it wouldn't work for the same reasons that doomed BF.

19 posted on 02/22/2015 7:15:43 PM PST by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: VanShuyten

That’s pretty stupid, I guess the pols in Maryland aren’t aware of the fact that firing pins change their primer imprint with enough usage. Or of course, the fact that one can just buy or make a new untraceable pin.


20 posted on 02/23/2015 12:55:45 AM PST by MeatshieldActual (Texan Independence, now and forever!)
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