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Scott Walker Doesn’t Need a Degree — and Neither Do You - Many great job applicants lack a degree
National Review Online ^ | February 20, 2015 | Michael J. Petrilli

Posted on 02/20/2015 11:25:52 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

The pundit class is raising questions about whether Scott Walker’s lack of a college degree disqualifies him from being America’s 45th president. This is what educators call a “teachable moment,” because the issue goes much deeper than Governor Walker’s biography. Of course a college credential shouldn’t be a prerequisite for the presidency, but that’s also true for many jobs that today require a degree even when it’s not really necessary. That’s a big problem.

Many American leaders are obsessed with college as the path to economic opportunity. President Obama, for instance, wants America to lead the world in college graduates by 2020. But he’s hardly alone. Philanthropists, scholars, business leaders, and other members of the meritocratic elite have been banging the “college for all” — or at least “college for almost all” — drum for the better part of a decade.

Yet despite their own blue-ribbon educations, these leaders are making a classic rookie blunder: They mistake correlation for causation. They point to study after study showing that Americans with college degrees do significantly better on a wide range of indicators: income, marriage, health, happiness, you name it. But they assume that it’s something about college itself that makes the difference, some alchemy at their alma mater that turns gangly 18-year-olds into twentysomething masters of the universe.

Sure, college can be a great experience, and many individuals gain important knowledge, skills, insights, and contacts there. It’s also a prerequisite for most graduate and professional schools. All of that can help to build the “human capital” that enables people to get good-paying jobs and then excel at them.

But much of the college advantage can be explained by “selection bias” — the differences between those who tend to complete college and those who don’t. The dirty little secret of college is that it tends to bestow a credential on those who are already most likely to succeed. To use another term from Statistics 101, it’s “instrumental variables” that explain why college grads do better: their reading and math abilities; their social skills; their wealth. If people with these underlying advantages did something with their time other than go to college — like start a business or serve in the military — they would still outperform their peers over the long term.

Furthermore, research tells us how college students do “on average” against their peers without degrees. But those averages can mask a lot of variation. As Andrew Kelly succinctly put it in a recent paper for the Thomas B. Fordham Institute, “on average ≠ always.” He cites a study by the Federal Reserve Bank of New York that found that the lowest-paid quartile of college graduates earns little more than average high-school graduates do; that’s been so since the 1970s. Which helps to explain all of those college-educated Starbucks baristas.

Back to Governor Walker. Our challenge as his prospective employer isn’t to determine whether presidents “on average” do better with a college degree than without one. It’s to consider Walker’s particular case. Does he have the knowledge and skills to do the job? What’s his track record in similar positions? We might conclude that his executive experience and legislative skills are quite solid but that his foreign-policy knowledge is a bit of a question mark. That’s the case with various of the successful GOP governors who are running for president. What matters isn’t whether they finished college 30 or 40 years ago, but how they’ve been performing in recent years, what kinds of advisers they are associating with, and what that implies for their potential success as president.

Unfortunately, millions of Americans don’t have this same opportunity to make their case to prospective employers, because their lack of a degree locks them out of the recruitment process altogether. While there are indeed some jobs that require the knowledge and skills gained in college, surely receptionists and photographers are not among them. Employers use college degrees as a proxy for smarts, perseverance, and other valuable skills. But this shortcut unwittingly excludes many talented people from their prospective hiring pool. This is especially unfair since it’s people who come from modest means (such as Walker) who are most likely to be disadvantaged by this type of credentialism. As Charles Murray has argued persuasively, a much better system would be one in which employers “rely more on direct evidence about what the job candidate knows, less on where it was learned or how long it took.”

Scott Walker may or may not be the best candidate for president. But there’s little doubt that he should be in the candidate pool. The same goes for millions of his non-college-educated peers who want a shot at a good job. We should give them a chance.

— Michael J. Petrilli is president of the Thomas B. Fordham Institute, a leading education-policy think tank. He is also a research fellow at Stanford University’s Hoover Institution.


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KEYWORDS: ability; collage; credentials; education; qualifications; scottwalker
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We've been suckered into thinking we need Big Education (and be happy and willing to foot the bill - and go into long-term debt for it), get credentialed (and the required social engineering classes) to earn a living.

Have you seen the billion dollar endowment funds many colleges are sitting on?

And Obama wants us to now foot the bill for a 2-year free college education to extend the time until you can't go out and find a job. He also wants to play Santa Clause and forgive the $1.16 Trillion student loan debt - taxpayer funded relief.

Years ago a 1st to 8th grade education imparted a LOT of knowledge.

Now pre-K to 12th grade is so filled with things other than reading, writing and arithmetic (and remedial class in your first year of college is required for many in......reading, writing and math).

But the unions protect their teachers - Gov. Scott Walker could tell you stories about the 5 month union siege of the Wisconsin state capitol in 2011.

1 posted on 02/20/2015 11:25:52 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I don’t have one...and I teach Music theory at the College Level, and prepare people for auditions and entrance exams!

(I am self-taught and self-employed)


2 posted on 02/20/2015 11:29:59 AM PST by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

harvard law scumbag says $9 trillion debt is unpatriotic!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kuTG19Cu_Q


3 posted on 02/20/2015 11:30:45 AM PST by biggredd1
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

A bachelor’s degree from many colleges and universities is hardly worth the trouble it took to get it. And when it comes to training a young person to analyze and think for themselves, it is often several steps in the wrong direction.


4 posted on 02/20/2015 11:30:47 AM PST by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Sometimes, common sense and an “I get it” mind set can help you succeed. Not saying that I posses either, I worked my way up from a labor grade 7 mechanic to a supervisor, test conductor, and eventually a field propulsion engineer and worked for the same employer for 36 years. Boy did I fool them. :>}


5 posted on 02/20/2015 11:31:20 AM PST by rktman (Served in the Navy to protect the rights of those that want to take some of mine away. Odd, eh?)
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Half of our Founding Fathers did not go to college.

But then again, the education of those who did graduate with a BA was equal to getting a PhD today.

6 posted on 02/20/2015 11:32:49 AM PST by Slyfox (I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just: that his justice cannot sleep for ever)
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I have never understood why many companies need a college degree, hell even most police agencies today require degrees.


7 posted on 02/20/2015 11:33:17 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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Last thing we need is college seen as a badge of maturity

One should feel ashamed to depend on parents until age 30 going to college.


8 posted on 02/20/2015 11:35:03 AM PST by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall no)
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Cruz and Walker have dramatically different educational backgrounds. Walker is technically a college drop-out, but he is clearly intelligent and skilled enough to do the job (the average garden vegetable is intelligent enough to do the job better than Barack Hussein Obama, but we need someone exceptional to fix the current mess, and Walker may be that good).

Cruz graduated cum laude from Princeton, and then magna cum laude from Harvard Law, and few people in the world have better educational credentials, and he is also intelligent and skilled enough to do the job. While Cruz actually earned the same law credential that Obama was awarded as an affirmative action gesture, I won't hold that superficial similarity against Cruz.

At this level, the credentials are irrelevant.

9 posted on 02/20/2015 11:37:11 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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I read that many HR departments don’t verify that a diploma is legitimate. So put down anything and give it a shot.


10 posted on 02/20/2015 11:37:38 AM PST by Cry if I Wanna
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Anyone who doesn't believe;
that the big government is the answer to all problems,
that it knows how to spend your money better than you,
that rights and liberty flow from the state,
that feminism is about equality,
that all cultures are equal,
that all men are possible rapists,
etc.

Then you are an idiot, regardless of your qualifications or education. Commies are smarter, don't you know.

11 posted on 02/20/2015 11:38:18 AM PST by deadrock (I is someone else.)
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Half of our Founding Fathers did not go to college.

They read (and read and read) and they were educated!

12 posted on 02/20/2015 11:38:42 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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But then again, the education of those who did graduate with a BA was equal to getting a PhD today.

And many spoke some Latin!

13 posted on 02/20/2015 11:39:47 AM PST by Cry if I Wanna
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14 posted on 02/20/2015 11:39:47 AM PST by TexasCajun
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I read that many HR departments don’t verify that a diploma is legitimate. So put down anything and give it a shot.

Gamble if you like. My company has you order them a transcript. Something to think about, kiddos, when you are signing up for courses. (Bonus question: Name a high-level job that does not require a college transcript.)

15 posted on 02/20/2015 11:44:51 AM PST by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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He deserves an honorary degree. Shame on any college in his state that has not bestowed that on him yet!

Can Hillsdale college give him an honorary? Would that be delicious?

16 posted on 02/20/2015 11:49:33 AM PST by thirst4truth (Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil - it has no point.)
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To: Cry if I Wanna
Most of the founders (I am thinking most all of them, I am still doing the research) knew Latin. The ones who graduated with a BA in Philosophy actually knew Latin well enough to be able to debate their professors and each other in Latin. Our Founding documents could have been written and debated in Latin.

They were so well-educated that we can not possibly imagine it correctly.

17 posted on 02/20/2015 11:51:48 AM PST by Slyfox (I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just: that his justice cannot sleep for ever)
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I honestly believe in street smarts vs book smarts. I know plenty of people who have degrees but wouldn’t be able to cut it in a sales position or others that involve customer interaction. Super smart on paper but not people persons. You can’t teach personality.


18 posted on 02/20/2015 11:51:56 AM PST by rainee (Her)
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To: TexasCajun

Hank Johnson,the “Guam might tip over” guy has a college degree——and a law degree.

Scary stuff !

.


19 posted on 02/20/2015 11:58:02 AM PST by Mears
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Most of the books they read were not yet translated into English so it was imperative that they know Latin.

Benjamin Franklin attended Boston Latin school but he was prevented from going on to college through lack of funds. But that did not stop him from forming a philosophical society called the Junto which allowed everyone who had an interest in all things philosophical to get together and discuss stuff.

George Washington was a member as well as most of the founders. Washington read from Plutarch and the Greek and Roman military leaders in Latin.

In those days, the mark of an educated person was their ability to use Latin.

20 posted on 02/20/2015 11:58:25 AM PST by Slyfox (I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just: that his justice cannot sleep for ever)
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