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If Apple's car business gets as big as Porsche's, guess how much more money Apple will make
Business Insider ^ | Feb. 16, 2015, 9:49 PM | Henry Blodget

Posted on 02/17/2015 7:05:29 AM PST by Lockbox

Apple fans are already hyperventilating with excitement about how much money Apple is going to make selling cars.

So let's put some numbers around that.

What if Apple immediately builds a car business the size of, say, Porsche's? How much more money will Apple make?

Well, Apple made about $53 billion of operating profit in the fiscal year ending in September 2014, a spectacular 28% operating profit margin on revenue of $182 billion.

Porsche, meanwhile, made about $2.6 billion of operating profit, an impressive (for a carmaker) 20% operating profit margin on revenue of $14.3 billion.

So if Apple sprouts a car business the size of Porsche's, Apple's operating profit will increase by ... 5%.

Wait, only 5%!?

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/how-much-money-can-apple-make-from-cars-2015-2#ixzz3S0y73ygc

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: apple; automakers; car; icar
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To: Lockbox
Just more money Apple intends to suck out of the US economy by keeping the cash overseas as they do now and not paying taxes on it and by using foreign labor instead of US labor. Apple has record profits but refuses to use US labor to "save money" but sells their products into the US markets. Apple is very anti-American.

All these Apple threads are by Apple's paid social media trolls out to pump the Apple stock price.

41 posted on 02/17/2015 9:03:41 AM PST by CodeToad (Islam should be outlawed and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: CodeToad
Your points about keeping money overseas and limited jobs for Americans are two topics for another day. Maybe you could start a thread for all to comment.

But your comment All these Apple threads are by Apple's paid social media trolls out to pump the Apple stock price is wrong. If you check I have been a member of Free Republic Since Sept 15, 2001 and do not own Apple stock. The comments are mine and I am not paid to comment by anyone.

42 posted on 02/17/2015 9:15:11 AM PST by Lockbox
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To: Lockbox; Swordmaker; CodeToad; Star Traveler

In fact. Code Toad’s statement is text book slander.

Funny that he should open himself up to slander charges when he is guessing.


43 posted on 02/17/2015 10:03:09 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Lockbox

If Apple got into the car business, it would only work on 5% of the roads — at least until Microsoft bought them.


44 posted on 02/17/2015 10:36:22 AM PST by jim_trent
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To: CodeToad; Lockbox; Swordmaker; BunnySlippers

Oh boy! The ole Apple-Hater Cult Group has arrived! What a deal!


45 posted on 02/17/2015 10:50:42 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: jim_trent; Lockbox

... LOL ... I guess my iPad and iPhone will only work on 5%’of the websites out there, only play 5% of the movies, I’ll only be able to reach 5% of the e-mail addresses, I can only listen to 5% of the songs on the market, I can only call 5% of the telephone numbers in existence ... :-) ...

Ummm ... when was Microsoft going to buy iPhone and iPad now? Just wondering ...


46 posted on 02/17/2015 10:55:19 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Lockbox; ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1234; Abundy; Action-America; acoulterfan; AFreeBird; Airwinger; Aliska; ...
Another speculation article about an Apple Car. . . based on rumor and air, but interesting. — PING!


Apple Car Rumors? Ping!

If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.

47 posted on 02/17/2015 12:59:25 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: DesertRhino
Hard to make a high end, world recognized quality level car,,,, with defacto slaves in factories that hang anti-suicide nets on the windows.
But that’s apple,,,,

No, that was actually Microsoft, Nokia, Sony, and HP. . . which are the companies' whose products that were being made in the factory where the majority of the suicides (which at were far lower rate than the Chinese population's suicide rate in general) occurred. Why do you Apple haters keep trotting out that long disproved LIE? In addition, DesertRhino, the workers on Apple's assembly lines at FoxConn have thousands of applicants for each opening because the pay for those jobs is at minimum seven times that of China's minimum wage for factory assembly line wages and goes up from there. . . and is at least three times that of equivalent wages on similar lines. Hardly "de facto slaves".

48 posted on 02/17/2015 1:09:49 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: CodeToad
Apple has record profits but refuses to use US labor to "save money" but sells their products into the US markets. Apple is very anti-American.
Apple has record profits, much of it overseas, on which it has paid tax overseas - and, surprisingly, Apple is no more excited than any other American company over the prospect of paying tax again on that same money here.
In the context of the capital gains tax, Obama has made it clear that improving the US economy just isn’t what floats his boat, so the Capital Gains tax rate is above the point of diminishing returns. That means that Americans don’t elect to realize nearly as much of their capital gains as they would if the tax rate were much lower. It is a case of government greed.
Similarly, if the corporation could expense dividends the way it in fact expenses interest payments, APPL and any other similarly situated corporation would bring most of that foreign cash to its American shareholders - who would pay income tax on it like any other income, and invest or spend the rest - primarily in America.
money Apple intends to suck out of the US economy by keeping the cash overseas
That money was always overseas to begin with; AAPL earned it overseas and paid taxes on it overseas. It never came out of “the US economy.” Obama demands credit for what AAPL has done, and AAPL has declined to give him that credit by infusing that money into the Treasury at confiscatory rates. And if you were in charge of an American corporation you would take the same approach if you could. Or you wouldn’t be smart enough to merit that position.

49 posted on 02/17/2015 1:14:05 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion ('Liberalism' is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: Lockbox
Full disclosure:

My Wife, my Son and I all use DROID phones.
I own an iPod given to me as a gift. I rarely use it any more.
My wife owns an iPad as well as an MS Surface. She uses both as a middle school teacher. She and her students prefer the Surface.
I make a living developing applications that run under Windows.

The above pedigree should show that I am NOT an Apple Fan Boy.
Hopefully, showing that there are 2 Apple devices in the household should indicate that I am NOT a Knee Jerk Apple hating reactionary.

Now, here is the correct assessment of Apple's tinkering around with an automotive product:

If they are looking at licensing a control and user interface for the outwardly "electronic" aspects of the car, treating it like a "rolling computer", then they are on firm ground.

If they are thinking about actually manufacturing an automobile for sale and distribution, they are too far afield of their core competency to be effective.

The historical episode of entering the "phone" market is not a good comparison. What Apple did there was recognize that mobile phones were mutating into small hand held computers. Computers are what they did. It was not the huge stretch some people seemed to think it was.

Automobiles, on the other hand, have a CENTURY of harsh, mechanical lessons that are not part of Apple's core business experience, and it is difficult to simply "purchase" that. (Although, if any company had the ready cash to "purchase" that kind of institutional knowledge wholesale, it would currently be Apple).
50 posted on 02/17/2015 1:18:48 PM PST by Rebel_Ace (My wife told me to update my tag, so I did.)
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To: Rebel_Ace

Excellent post.

Apple could easily buy a car company - the reason the market cap of many car companies is relatively low is because it’s a high cap investment/low profit business.

Now why they would want to do this is another question.


51 posted on 02/17/2015 1:25:43 PM PST by nascarnation (Impeach, convict, deport)
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To: Swordmaker
As a stockholder I am underwhelmed at the idea of an Applemobile. For the reasons stated and for the reason that electric cars are grossly overrated by the Obamacracy.

I admit I can conceive of a vehicle which would be radically different from the conventional layout and which could have significant advantages. But it’s far from clear to me that Apple could make iPhone-class profit margins from even a boffo performance in bringing such to market.

52 posted on 02/17/2015 1:31:07 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion ('Liberalism' is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Oh, that's hilarious. One of the (many) reasons I bought an android smart phone over an i-phone was the GPS. Apple maps and GPS sucked so bad, Apple eventually quit them and defaulted back to Google Maps.

That's false. Apple Maps is still the default in iOS with Google Maps a downloadable option. Apple Maps is quite functional and accurate, and offers functions that Google Map doesn't, such as a working fly over, which they are trying to copy. I use Apple Maps at least one a week and it works great.

Just before Apple Maps came out, Google Maps sent my girlfriend and me down a road—unnecessarily off the beaten track, on the way from Sacramento to to San Andreas—which had potholes slightly larger than your average Volkswagen. That road damaged my car because the potholes were so bad and the angle of the sun made them impossible to see until you hit them. I wound up with a $1400 front end repair bill! from hitting one of the potholes on that road that Google Maps showed as a good paved road. It actually is a dead end, unpaved road, . . and did not connect where it Google Maps claimed it did. After I got Apple Maps, I put the same destination in it, and it plotted a route that was two mile shorter, NOT including that road. . . and showed that road correctly as being a dead-end, non-maintained road.

53 posted on 02/17/2015 1:33:45 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: Rebel_Ace

The trouble with assessing Apple’s entry into the automobile market from these slew of articles ... is that Apple isn’t saying what it’s doing there. Apple never does. SO ... we (all of us) just can’t make an assessment. Maybe when we find out what Apple intends to make, we’ll be able to say something about it.

AND ... NO ... you don’t talk like the Apple-Hating Cult Group that shows up on these threads for the sake of trolling anf disrupting! Those guys are EASILY RECOGNIZABLE ... :-) ...


54 posted on 02/17/2015 1:36:25 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

Where has Apple announced they are building an automobile?! I haven’t seen it anywhere.


55 posted on 02/17/2015 1:38:11 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Lockbox
Interesting article about Apple’s car business outlook.

Now THAT'S thinking outside the box.........

56 posted on 02/17/2015 1:40:40 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Uncle Sy: "Beavers are like Ninjas, they only come out at night and they're hard to find")
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To: Lockbox

I don’t think Apple is getting into building automobiles.

I do think they are after the HUD windshield and dashboard display, as well connecting devices within the cockpit.

I thought I heard a whisper about them and Mercedes, who opened their research lab in Mountain View recently.


57 posted on 02/17/2015 1:42:19 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Doh!

Just peachy...


58 posted on 02/17/2015 1:42:59 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Lockbox

No, they’ll come in any color you want, so long as it’s white...


59 posted on 02/17/2015 1:43:46 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: mad_as_he$$
The first iphone was crap. The ones today are still not all that good. Are you a member of the Apple cult?

Amazing. Do you really think people will believe your opinion? There was a sea change in phone functionality, design, and abilities that followed the release of the iPhone.

Just in ease of use, no phone came close to the iPhone. I had a top of the line Motorola phone. . . and was able to get the speaker phone function to operate only twice in the three years I had the damn thing. . . and both times were not accomplished in the same way! It came with a half-inch thick manual, and following the instructions in the manual did not work to get the speaker phone to work. . . and it was by no means comparable to a modern smartphone.

You obviously have never used an iPhone.

60 posted on 02/17/2015 1:44:52 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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