Posted on 02/16/2015 1:52:38 PM PST by servo1969
That "infringed" word is just so that-depends-on-the-definition-of -ish.
The real surprise is that this didn’t happen years ago. They did the same to 7.62x39 ammo when one company announced a mere _prototype_ “pistol” which fired it.
BATFE’s imperative is to enforce the letter of the law, shaving off every bit of ballistic freedom they can justify as not within what is strictly allowed.
-—characterized as “cop-killer” bullets-—
So when cops or the batf use 5.56 ammo do they call them “civilian-killer” bullets?
BKMK
This government forgets that when Prohibition was passed almost 100 years ago, all it really did was make criminals out millions of otherwise law abiding citizens. This administration is intentionally doing exactly that with this new law, blatantly, and with malice.
The Second Ammendment protects all the others.
This too will get struck down. Its irritating and infuriating but it will not last.
bflr
Molon labe
Are 30-30’s rifles still legal?
Reagan wasn’t quite the same after hinkley.... i blame G H W B..........
Why would this be struck down? AP ammo has been banned for a long time. Other bullets have been caught up in the ban for the same reasons. Like the ‘86 machine gun ban, it still stands because most legislators and judges see it as too militaristic for reasonable civilian use, with plenty of close enough alternatives still available. M855 is fine until “shall not be infringed” resumes.
there are going to be lawsuits filed all over the place from this. Its not armor piercing. So their whole argument is BS. Watch.
Next up...hollow point.
It has a steel core, therefore it is armor piercing under the law.
This article misses some key information in the Federal statute U.S.C. § 921(a)(17)(B) that specifies what materials makes up an AP round:
"Armor-piercing ammunition is defined as any projectile or projectile core that may be used in a handgun and that is constructed ENTIRELY from one or a combination of tungsten alloys, steel, iron, brass, bronze, beryllium copper, or depleted uranium. In addition, armor-piercing ammunition is defined as a full jacketed projectile “larger than .22 caliber designed and intended for use in a handgun and whose jacket has a weight of more than 25 percent of the total weight of the projectile.”
We know the M885 or SS109 are not "entirely" made of steel which is the tip and its core is made of lead. Those metals listed is what makes up an AP round and lead is not one of them. Furthermore, the jacket is much less that 25% of the weight of the projectile. The ATF has misidentified the M885 long ago as an AP round - likely subterfuge. We see their "proposal" is not supported by law. The ATF is making stuff up as they go.
You're correct. :-)
O.K. I’m gonna brag a little.....best shooting I’ve ever done.
Took my M-4 with red dot sight and cheap Russian ammo to the range. Crude benches and the berm was 100 yds downrange. 4 guys there and they had a variety of handguns and rifles. I waited probably 45 minutes or so to break my weapon out of the case. They had asked earlier if I wanted to shoot but I told them I would wait. I had been shooting a good bit at the time. A lot actually. So, they got done and started to put up their weapons. Range Clear!
There was about a 4x4 piece of anti-freeze bottle at the bottom of the berm. Wind must have been just right.....popped a 30 rd mag in and settled in. Started firing and chased the plastic up the berm. When it got to the top it would pop up 5 ft or so and slide back down to the bottom. When it hit bottom I would start firing again, chase it up the berm, up in the air and slide back down and start over again.
After about 20 rds one guy in behind me said “God-===” I finished the mag and one of the other guys says, behind me, “you ever seen anything like that?” “Hell, no.” say’s one of the other spectators. Pop in another mag and do it again. Take of my earmuff(amplified so I heard every thing they said) and said “Well I think the sight is still on” The four guys started clapping! Stuck my weapon in the case and left.
I was so cool that the M-4 barrel burned a hole right through the case. Got about 6 inches of plastic crap stuck to the barrel. Never told anyone about that! Never let’em see you sweat. Couldn’t do that again in a thousand years. I was in the zone and it does really happen.
It has a penetrator yes but it is not armor piercing. It will not penetrate AR-500 ordinance steel plates.
ILLINOIS
ISRA Alert - Contact ATF: Oppose 5.56 M855 Ball Ammunition Ban
The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) has announced it is seeking to ban commonplace 5.56 M855 ball ammunition as “armor piercing ammunition.” ATF is seeking public comment on the proposal, so all industry employees, target shooters and gun owners should contact ATF to oppose this unnecessary ban, which is truly a solution in search of a problem and that raises serious questions about executive agency attitude and overreach. Stopped cold on Capitol Hill, this action appears to be the Obama administration’s attempt to pursue gun control by other means.
Commonly available steel-core, “green tip” M855 and SS109 rifle ammunition that is primarily intended and regularly used for “sporting purposes,” like target shooting, has been exempt from federal law banning armor piercing ammunition for decades. There is no question that the 5.56 ball ammo has been in wide use by law abiding American citizens for sporting purposes.
It is with the increasing prevalence of handgun versions of rifle platforms, that ATF now apparently sees an opening to now ban the widely used M855 and SS109 ammunition.
It would be legally permissible to continue to possess and use so-defined “armor piercing” ammunition currently possessed. However, rescinding the decades-old exemption will have a major impact. It will become illegal to manufacture, import, distribute or sell at retail this very popular rifle target ammunition.
ATF’s proposed “framework” for applying the “sporting purpose” exemption test rewrites the law passed by Congress to disregard the manufacturer’s intention that a projectile or cartridge is “primarily intended for a supporting purpose.” ATF inappropriately places the focus on how criminals might misuse sporting ammunition in a handgun.
Just as disturbing, language used by ATF in its long white paper refers to criminals as a “consumer group.” The implication that the industry purposely sells firearms and ammunition to criminals is misleading and echoes the shopworn charges of the gun control lobby.
Manufacturers will face serious limitations in their ability to develop and market alternative ammunition in other popular hunting rounds, such as .308 rifle hunting ammunition, if ATF’s so-called “framework” is adopted. This will have a detrimental effect on hunting nationwide, especially in California where a total ban on traditional ammunition for hunting is being phased in now.
ATF is soliciting comments on how it can best implement withdrawal of this exemption while “minimizing disruption to the ammunition and firearm industry and maximizing officer safety”. Under the proposed framework, 30-06 M2AP cartridges would continue to be exempt because there are no multi-shot handguns generally available that accept such ammunition.
The proposal is useless since standard lead-only 5.56 ammunition is “armor piercing” simply due to the round’s velocity. Rifles in this caliber, or any caliber for that matter, are rarely used in crimes.
ATF will accept comments on this proposal until March 16, 2015. Email or write ATF today and tell them you oppose this unnecessary, misguided and damaging ban on commonly used ammunition for America’s most popular sporting rifles.
Email: APAComments@atf.gov
Fax: (202) 648-9741.
Mail:
Denise Brown, Mailstop 6N-602, Office of Regulatory Affairs, Enforcement Programs and Services, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives, 99 New York Avenue, NE, Washington, DC 20226: ATTN: AP Ammo Comments.
Courtesy of NSSF.org
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