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The Ultimate Enemy of ISIS
Townhall.com ^ | February 13, 2015 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 02/13/2015 11:04:33 AM PST by Kaslin

The president's request for the authorization to use military force against the Islamic State has landed in a Congress as divided as the country.

That division was mirrored in the disparate receptions Obama's resolution received from The Wall Street Journal and The New York Times.

To the Times, Obama's AUMF is "alarmingly broad. It does not limit the battlefield to Syria and Iraq."

Moreover, Obama "seeks permission to attack 'associated persons or forces.'" This would give the White House "virtually unrestricted power to engage in attacks around the globe as long as it can justify a connection, however tenuous, to the Islamic State."

To the Journal, Obama's resolution ties America down the way the Lilliputians tied down Gulliver. It authorizes war on ISIS for only three years. It would prevent another U.S. army from being sent to Iraq or Syria.

"Rather than put shackles on his generals," says the Journal, "Mr. Obama should be urging them to mount a campaign to roll back ISIS as rapidly as possible from the territory it holds."

But the country seems nowhere near this hawkish.

Viewing nightly on cable news the hardships endured by the Wounded Warriors of our two latest and longest wars has cooled the arbor for new crusades.

About the character of the Islamic State, there is no disagreement.

"A brutal, vicious death cult," Obama called it.

But about whether ISIS is an "existential threat" to us, or if this war is really our war, there is no agreement.

North of Syria, along 500 miles of border, sits a Turkish army of half a million with 3,000 tanks that could cross over and annihilate ISIS in a month. Former Secretary of State James Baker suggests that the U.S. offer air, logistics and intelligence support, if the Turks will go in and snuff out ISIS.

But not only have the Turks not done so, for a time they looked the other way as jihadists crossed their border to join ISIS.

If the Islamic State, as Ankara's inaction testifies, is not viewed as a threat to Turkey's vital interests, how can it be a threat to ours?

There are reports that the Saudis and the Gulf Arabs would be more willing to participate in a war on ISIS if we would first effect the ouster of Bashar Assad.

Everyone in the Middle East, it appears, wants the United States to fight their wars for them. But as they look out for their interests first, it is time we started looking out for ours first.

Foremost among those interests would be to avoid another $1 trillion war, with thousands of U.S. dead and tens of thousands of wounded, and a situation, after a decade of fighting, as exists today in Afghanistan and Iraq, where those we leave behind in power cannot hold their own against the enemies we defeated for them.

That an Iraqi army we equipped and trained at a cost of tens of billions would disintegrate and desert Iraq's second city, Mosul, when confronted by a few thousand fanatics, was a debacle.

Why should Americans have to recapture Mosul for Baghdad?

And why do these "democrats" we install in power seem to perform so poorly?

Under Saddam, Iraq fought an eight-year war against a nation three times as large and populous, Iran. Yet, Saddam's army did not run away as the Iraqi army we trained and equipped ran away from Anbar.

What did Saddam Hussein have to motivate men that we do not?

What is it that makes some people in the Middle East volunteer and fight to the death, while others refuse to fight or run away from battle?

For, as the Journal writes, "The Associated Press reported Tuesday that U.S. intelligence officials now say foreign fighters are joining Islamic State 'in unprecedented numbers,' including 3,400 from western nations out of 20,000 from around the world."

Why is this?

The Islamic State has plugged into the most powerful currents of the Middle East. It is anti-American, anti-Zionist, anti-West, Islamic and militantly Islamist. It promises to overthrow the old order of Sykes-Picot, to tear up the artificial borders the West imposed on the Arabs, and to produce a new unity, a new dispensation where the Quran is law and Allah rules and all Sunnis are united in one home whence all infidels -- Jews, Shia, Christians -- have been driven out. Hateful as it is, ISIS has a vision.

Hezbollah, Iran, Assad, the Houthi rebels, all Shiites, understand this.

They know they are in a fight to the death. And they fight.

But it is the Sunni Arabs, the royals on the Arabian Peninsula and the sheiks on the Gulf, to whom this should be a fire bell in the night.

For ISIS is out to dethrone these perceived royal puppets of a detested America and to reclaim rightful custody of Mecca and Medina.

The Shiites are already in the field. The Sunni are going to have to fight and win this war against ISIS, or lose it all.


TOPICS: Editorial
KEYWORDS: aumf; patbuchanon

1 posted on 02/13/2015 11:04:33 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
If the Islamic State, as Ankara's inaction testifies, is not viewed as a threat to Turkey's vital interests, how can it be a threat to ours?

Because Ankara is backing them.

2 posted on 02/13/2015 11:06:23 AM PST by marron
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To: Kaslin
There are reports that the Saudis and the Gulf Arabs would be more willing to participate in a war on ISIS if we would first effect the ouster of Bashar Assad.

No doubt.

ISIS was created for the express purpose of overthrowing Assad and closing Iran's window to the Mediterranean. And perhaps secondarily creating a physical wedge between Iran and Syria. They are doing what they were created to do.

The fact that their head-chopping creates a PR problem for Obama isn't their problem. Their primary problem is just making sure ISIS doesn't spill over the line into Saudi Arabia (which if you are Qatar is probably also not much of a concern).

3 posted on 02/13/2015 11:11:19 AM PST by marron
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To: Kaslin
Though Iran wants ISIS eliminated they don't want a large U.S. military force back in Iraq. Neither do they want the Kurds equipped with anything more potent than rifles. They also oppose any serious program to develop a fighting force of Syrian rebels or any other U.S. moves against the Assad regime. This is why I believe Obama’s request for a war authorization, his animosity toward Israel, and other curious moves are largely influenced by Tehran. I believe Obama struck a secret deal with Iran before he even took office in 2009.
4 posted on 02/13/2015 11:20:13 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Kaslin

'Everyone in the Middle East, it appears, wants the United States to fight their wars for them.'

But of course.

The militaries of Saudi Arabia, UAE, Jordan and such isn't as much as to defend their countries from outside aggression, but to keep the commons at bay and to keep the Kings in control.

5 posted on 02/13/2015 11:20:54 AM PST by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: Kaslin
Something smell like shi! here. Something is wrong but I can't see it yet. King Obama is a huge screw up and no matter what he does he will screw it up.
6 posted on 02/13/2015 11:21:07 AM PST by Logical me
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To: Kaslin

Pat would have opposed the original Crusades too. He’s consistently not for hurting our enemies or going after them where they live.


7 posted on 02/13/2015 11:31:50 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: Kaslin

Sunnis are begging the USA for weapon,s but the Kenyan warlord has sided with Shiite-(Iran).Incredible foolishness by the Administer-in-cheif.


8 posted on 02/13/2015 11:34:01 AM PST by Finalapproach29er (luke 6:38)
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To: Kaslin

http://www.ltw.org/en/web/guest/watch?p_auth=tupdi3YZ&p_p_id=mediaAreaTabs_WAR_LTWWeb_INSTANCE_X7r10dvKIGnB&p_p_lifecycle=1&p_p_state=normal&p_p_mode=view&_mediaAreaTabs_WAR_LTWWeb_INSTANCE_X7r10dvKIGnB_episodeId=1980&_mediaAreaTabs_WAR_LTWWeb_INSTANCE_X7r10dvKIGnB_javax.portlet.action=playEpisode

Good info.


9 posted on 02/13/2015 12:16:33 PM PST by Maudeen
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To: Kaslin
"has cooled the arbor"

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10 posted on 02/13/2015 3:59:32 PM PST by rightwingcrazy
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To: All

Pat’s thesis founders on the fact that the Iraqi forces are primarily Shia. Yet he excoriates them for their feckless behavior.


11 posted on 02/13/2015 5:21:16 PM PST by pluvmantelo (Democrats: the party of moral hazard, the IRS, the NSA and the heckler's veto)
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To: Kaslin
But about whether ISIS is an "existential threat" to us, or if this war is really our war, there is no agreement.

Daesh (ISIS) is just like the Nazis. If this war is not our war at the moment, it certainly will be eventually.

Are we supposed to wait until these animals are in control of huge swaths of territory and the state apparatuses of multiple nations?

F--k that shit; let's go ahead and deal with Daesh ASAP, and with extreme prejudice...

12 posted on 02/13/2015 5:50:35 PM PST by sargon
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To: Kaslin
"The Associated Press reported Tuesday that U.S. intelligence officials now say foreign fighters are joining Islamic State 'in unprecedented numbers,' including 3,400 from western nations out of 20,000 from around the world."

Chechens were the first to get in line. Anyway this is just another target rich environment. May as well take out the newbies with the trash.

13 posted on 02/13/2015 5:56:29 PM PST by MarMema (Run Ted Run)
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To: sargon

Stop calling it Daesh or Isis. It is the Islamic state


14 posted on 02/13/2015 10:13:00 PM PST by Cronos (ObamaÂ’s dislike of Assad is not based on AssadÂ’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: Cronos

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2951016/Child-receives-60-lashes-town-square-referring-ISIS-hated-Daesh-term-Iraq.html


15 posted on 02/13/2015 10:28:54 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: Cronos
Stop calling it Daesh or Isis. It is the Islamic state

No! I've heard that they don't like being called Daesh, so, of course, I will use that term frequently, whenever the mood strikes me. Whatever their least favorite term is, that's the one I'll generally employ.

16 posted on 02/14/2015 2:24:36 PM PST by sargon
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