Posted on 02/09/2015 7:11:05 AM PST by cotton1706
Joe Manchin (D-WV) wants everyone to know he really opposes Obama’s amnesty.
He really is a moderate and so distressed by Obama’s radical takeover of his party. In fact, he is so upset with Obama’s unconstitutional amnesty that he is willing to do anything to stop it…well, anything except for something that would actually stop it.
Manchin told National Review’s Joel Gehrke that Obama “overstepped his bounds,” but he doesn’t want to defund it through the DHS appropriations bill – the only must-pass bill that will actually force the issue. He contends that the Senate should just bring up a separate immigration bill. When asked how that would force Obama’s hand, NRO reports: “after pausing a few seconds, Manchin said he had to go and exited the Capitol.”
And therein lies the broader artifice of Joe Manchin.
You see, he is a Democrat who represents West Virginia’s values and is willing to break with his party – except for when it counts.
When it comes to amnesty he has always been in the tank for Obama. Not only did Manchin vote for the Gang of 8 amnesty bill in 2013, he even voted against a provision requiring that a visa tracking system be implemented before any amnesty is granted. What’s worse, he opposed an amendment to block the issuance of Obamacare benefits for illegal aliens. That’s a pretty amazing feat, even for a double talking politician who campaigned against amnesty and Obamacare.
But these are all policy disagreements.
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And those West Virginia hillbillies are ignorant enough to keep voting for him.
I’ll take “both” for $1000, Alex.
Too bad that’s not the Daily Double question, Jim. You’d clean up.
” Pelosi and Reid are just sitting back laughing planning on the next term 2017 when they have control of congress again.”
“OK, as per our agreement, it is ours again”
The Senate GOPs up for re-election in 2016 were elected in 2010 districts that Obama won in 2008, due to the 2010 sweep. This is the opposite of last year where the DEms up were elected in 2008 during the Dem sweep.
So the idea that voters in those states that elected Obama would rally behind shutdowns and disfunctionality is ludicrous.,
2016 is not looking good right now.
I mean ‘The idea pushed on talk radio that...”
” 2016 is not looking good right now. “
Who wants them anyway?
See tagline.
Harper Polling has Manchin up big against possible gubernatorial opponents.
http://www.harperpolling.com/polls/west-virginia-governor-poll-general-electionpost
I guess Manchin sees this as his way out of DC. Still, he’s going to face an ever-increasingly GOP WV legislature, which I believe no Democrat Governor has had to contend with (other than the present one), and I can’t imagine why he’d want to go back to Charleston to encounter a mini-version of DC with he playing the role of Zero for 4 or 8 years.
Add to that, if Tomblin or Manchin name a Dem to the vacancy, it is almost certain to go GOP in 2018. The question is which Republican it will go to. David McKinley will be almost 72 at the start of the 2019 session, too old. Alex Mooney will be just 47, but unless he increases his performance, he’ll still wear the badge of carpetbagger (despite having only moved some 20 miles from his old home in Frederick, MD to just across the Potomac). That leaves Evan Jenkins, he’ll be 58. Lacking Mooney’s baggage and age-wise, he may be the best fit.
I had high hopes for Atty Gen Patrick Morrisey, but he easily capitulated on gay marriage, so I have no use for him.
“That leaves Evan Jenkins, he’ll be 58. Lacking Mooney’s baggage and age-wise, he may be the best fit.”
WV will have had a GOP Speaker and GOP Senate majority leader for 4 years by the time that 2018 rolls around, so maybe those would be good sources of Senate candidates.
Possibly so, although it looks like the legislative leaders are already floating their names for Governor. I don’t much about them, so I can only analyze the House farm team at present.
BTW, are you of the same conclusion I am that WV will drop to just 2 House seats after 2023 ?
“BTW, are you of the same conclusion I am that WV will drop to just 2 House seats after 2023 ?”
The U.S. population is on pace to increase by around 7.75% during this decade, so the average CD will have a population of around 765,000 after the 2020 Census. WV has actually decreased in population since the 2010 Census, but even if it recovers somewhat and breaks even, it would be entitled to 2.42 congressional districts. While the method for allocating congressional districts is more complicated than my crude division exercise, it is certain that WV will not be able to keep its current three CDs unless it increases its population by at least 2% during the decade, and it would not be assured of keeping three CDs unless its population increases by over 3%.
Given that WV’s population *decreased* by 0.1% during the first 51 months of the 120-month Census period, WV’s population would need to increase at a pace of 3.75% a decade for the next 69 months in order to have a small chance of keeping its current number of CDs.
So, barring an unprecedented change in America’s migratory patterns, WV will be down to two CDs after the 2020 Census. One of the three GOP congressmen will lose the game of musical chairs, and it is likely that one or more of them will decide to run statewide before that happens, either for Manchin’s Senate seat in 2018 or in the GOP primary for Capito’s Senate seat in 2020 (or, if the Dems hold the governorship in 2016, for governor in 2020).
It’s a shame that just as the state has recovered from over 8 decades of Democrat mismanagement and statism that it will be losing a seat that will likely be Republican. Of course, if we stopped counting the illegal population nationally and redistricted in that regard, it would probably be able to hang on to that 3rd seat.
As late as 1962, WV had 6 CDs; in less than 8 years, it will have 2 CDs. A 67% reduction in House members in 60 years!
That’s the way things are in Washington now. Everything is party. People who’ll go against the party and its leadership are few and far between. Certainly among the Democrats, but not just on their side of the aisle.
Disgusting irony that we haven’t won the Governorship since ‘96, the last year we didn’t carry the state in the Presidential election. To extend that because this icehole Manchin is still popular, ugh.
Such a shame they will be losing a seat now that we’ve taken over.
And the Governorship wouldn’t have been won at all in 1996 had the far-left in the state not nominated Charlotte Pritt for the Dems. The Dem Establishment backed the safe and non-nutty Republican ex-Gov. Cecil Underwood in the general. It’s astonishing to consider that not since 1928 has a Republican not named Underwood or Moore won the Governorship. Same thing for Senator, not since 1928 has someone not named Moore (-Capito) or Revercomb won a full term (I exclude Hugh Ike Shott, an old Class of 1928’er Congressman, who won the 6-week term in 1942 for the Neely vacancy).
Funny now to realize if WV & VA reunited, the former would push VA back into the GOP column across-the-board.
Manchin announces he will not run for Governor but will run for reelection to the Senate in 2018.
http://news.yahoo.com/west-virginias-joe-manchin-says-hell-run-again-153105294—election.html
I wonder if he decided that he didn’t want to be Governor with a GOP legislative majority. This should be good news to the GOP for reclaiming the Governorship for the first time since 1996.
“I’ll take Joe Manchin is a two-faced coward for $600, Alex!”
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