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To: blackdog

That makes sense..

Required Engine power is at absolute maximum during takeoff. If one engine fails in a 2 engine aircraft, and aircraft has not reached high altitude, it must be impossible to control the aircraft. It will turn sideways as this one did, with the good engine above the bad one.

My guess is the pilot turned off the good engine with a hope of a crash landing in the river. But just did not have the altitude to pull it off.


16 posted on 02/07/2015 8:51:51 PM PST by entropy12 ( Only real function of economic forecasts is to make astrology look respectable.)
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To: entropy12

Whatever happened to the engines, it is pretty clear that this plane is stalling and starting to do it’s death spiral.

I dislike these ATR’s for a number of reasons, not the least or which is the lack of a nice looking and sufficiently sized wing. The compromises the designers made in getting this aircraft to be commercially viable are ones that make sense, but also make the aircraft less and less airworthy.

Just my opinion.

Oldplayer


17 posted on 02/07/2015 8:58:35 PM PST by oldplayer
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To: entropy12

> “My guess is the pilot turned off the good engine with a hope of a crash landing in the river. But just did not have the altitude to pull it off.”

Not my guess. If the good engine was producing more torque than could be controlled by the ailerons and tail (a long shot for a commercial airliner), they might have reduced the power on the good engine slightly, not shut it off.

One of the two pilots guessed wrong (for whatever reason) on which engines was out.


21 posted on 02/07/2015 9:02:39 PM PST by jim_trent
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To: entropy12
The hardest thing to do in pilot training is to lower the nose to build airspeed when there is no altitude permitting. Understandably so.

Aircraft crash rates with twin engine props with one engine out are far more lethal than single engine or center line thrust multi-engine aircraft.

The Beechcraft Baron was famous for this problem. There was a best rate of climb published at something like 80KTS. Minimum controllable airspeed in a Baron with critical engine out was like 78 KTS. It was very easy to find yourself in a pickle.

22 posted on 02/07/2015 9:02:48 PM PST by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: entropy12
The hardest thing to do in pilot training is to lower the nose to build airspeed when there is no altitude permitting. Understandably so.

Aircraft crash rates with twin engine props with one engine out are far more lethal than single engine or center line thrust multi-engine aircraft.

The Beechcraft Baron was famous for this problem. There was a best rate of climb published at something like 80KTS. Minimum controllable airspeed in a Baron with critical engine out was like 78 KTS. It was very easy to find yourself in a pickle.

32 posted on 02/07/2015 9:25:25 PM PST by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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